Shooting in Chattanooga Navy Reserve Center and Recruiting Station

Started by lustindarkness, July 16, 2015, 02:34:28 PM

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lustindarkness

Been reading about it for more than an hour, now they say 4 or 5 dead.  :mad: :(
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derspiess

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lustindarkness

Yeah, sucks big time. Hits hard as we worry about this type of thing all the time. We have been at elevated threat conditions for a while now.
Very personal for me because I have friends in that reserve center, some have deployed with me, I have been there multiple times to train and for ceremonies. Some are also cops in the area, one in their SWAT, I bet he has been busy today.
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derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall


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jimmy olsen

Surprise, surprise <_<

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chattanooga-shootings-four-marines-gunman-dead-rampage-tennessee-military-facilities-n393266

QuoteThe gunman was identified by a senior federal official as Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, 24. He was a naturalized U-S citizen from Kuwait, the official said.
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DGuller

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 16, 2015, 06:34:12 PM
Surprise, surprise <_<

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chattanooga-shootings-four-marines-gunman-dead-rampage-tennessee-military-facilities-n393266

QuoteThe gunman was identified by a senior federal official as Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, 24. He was a naturalized U-S citizen from Kuwait, the official said.
:rolleyes: Did you expect him to be 50 years old?

Eddie Teach

Quote from: DGuller on July 16, 2015, 06:55:36 PM
:rolleyes: Did you expect him to be 50 years old?

Of course not. That's why he was being sarcastic when he said it was a surprise.
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Valmy

Whatever half the Hindus I know are named Mohammed.

That is just horrible. I wonder if he is another of those paranoid loners.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

jimmy olsen

:(

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/us/chattanooga-tennessee-shooting-investigation-mohammod-abdulazeez.html?_r=0
QuoteCHATTANOOGA, Tenn. — Marines and sailors risked their lives for one another in Chattanooga last week, trying to distract the gunman who assaulted a naval center, helping people scale a fence for safety and returning fire at the attacker, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

Some of the five servicemen who were fatally wounded effectively sacrificed themselves during the assault on Thursday, diverting the gunman from a larger group of potential victims, according to a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation into the killings.

"This could have been a lot worse," said the official, who did not want to be identified because he was not authorized to discuss the investigation. "It could have been a horrible, horrible massacre — so much worse."

At a news conference here, the F.B.I. confirmed that at least one service member shot at the attacker, but did not say whether he had managed to wound the gunman, Mohammod Abdulazeez, who was killed minutes later in a shootout with the Chattanooga police.

"A service member from inside the facility observed him and opened fire on him, firing several rounds at him," said Edward W. Reinhold, the special agent in charge of the F.B.I.'s Knoxville office. Two guns belonging to service members were recovered from the scene, he said, and "at least one of those weapons had been discharged."

Mr. Abdulazeez had written about the submission to God demanded by Islam, about martyrdom and suicide, and about seeing the world as a dark and painful place.

Investigators are trying to determine if he came into contact with extremists who might have radicalized him, inspiring or even directing his attack. But Mr. Reinhold cautioned on Wednesday that it was too early to answer such questions, saying that agents were pursuing nearly 400 leads in the case.

"At this point we're treating him as a homegrown violent extremist," he said.

"We do not have any indication that anyone else was assisting him that day," he added, but he did not address the possibility of prior help.


James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, said on Wednesday night that investigators were still combing through Mr. Abdulazeez's cellphone and laptop to learn more about his influences, motivations and contacts.

"We're literally trying to understand every second of his life over the last couple of years, at least," Mr. Comey said at the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado.

The four Marines and one sailor who were fatally shot were all apparently killed by Mr. Abdulazeez, Mr. Reinhold said when asked about the possibility that police officers or a fellow service member had accidentally shot any of the victims.

"All indications are — and we do not have the ballistic reports back — preliminarily, it looks like all victims were killed with the same weapon," he said.

Offering new details on the shooting, Mr. Reinhold described a chaotic and terrifying confrontation at the naval training center, lasting just three to five minutes.


Mr. Abdulazeez, 24, first drove up to a military recruitment office and, without getting out of his rented silver convertible, opened fire.

Then he raced off, with the police not far behind, and at the naval training center a few miles away, he crashed through the security gate and got out of his car with an assault rifle — apparently the only weapon he used — and a handgun, leaving a third firearm in the car.

He fired as he approached the building and shot the first person he encountered inside, Mr. Reinhold said, as others scrambled for cover.

"The shooter made entry into the building, proceeded to move through the building, pursuing the sailors and Marines who were attempting to evade him," Mr. Reinhold said.

Maj. Gen. Paul W. Brier of the Marines said: "Our Marines reacted the way you would expect, rapidly going room to room, getting people to safety. After they had gotten to safety, some willingly ran back into the fight. All of us can be extremely proud of what our Marines did that day."

Mr. Abdulazeez went out through the back of the building, Mr. Reinhold said, and into the fenced-in motor pool area, where "two service members attempted to provide cover and assist the military personnel attempting to get over the fence."

It was there, he said, that four of the five victims were killed and that the police caught up to the gunman. In the shootout that followed, an officer was wounded, and Mr. Abdulazeez was killed.

"There were hundreds of rounds fired" by Mr. Abdulazeez and the Chattanooga police, said the law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity, making for an unusually complex forensics effort to piece together what happened. He said that Mr. Abdulazeez had used a derivative of an AK-47 assault rifle.

Witness accounts and the volume of shots fired have raised questions about whether the gun was fully automatic or had been modified to be operate that way. Mr. Reinhold did not confirm the specific type of assault rifle used, but said none of the weapons had been modified.

He said investigators knew where the guns had been purchased, but he would not say where, or whether they had been bought legally.

The gunman killed Gunnery Sgt. Thomas Sullivan, Staff Sgt. David Wyatt, Sgt. Carson Holmquist and Lance Cpl. Squire Wells, all of the Marines, and Randall Smith, a Navy petty officer second class.

Mr. Abdulazeez was born in Kuwait to Jordanian parents, but he spent most of his life in the Chattanooga area and was a naturalized American citizen. Investigators are combing through his electronic communications and his travel history, including a seven-month stay in Jordan last year.

One of his uncles has been detained in Jordan for questioning by American and Jordanian intelligence officials.

"The F.B.I. will explore every possibility and every relative that he has, no matter where they are located," Mr. Reinhold said.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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