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Spain Introduces Repressive Gag Law

Started by jimmy olsen, July 02, 2015, 06:38:09 PM

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celedhring

Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2015, 02:42:03 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 02:24:50 AMWhat is worse, though, is that a lot those will now be considered "administrative penalties" and thus will escape judicial review.

Hopefully Spanish Constitution is sufficiently well written for this to be considered unconstitutional? Wondering whether this can go to the ECHR too, especially if this is enforced in a way stiffling legitimate protests.

The opposition has challenged the law in our Constitutional Court, we'll see.

Syt

At the very least, prescribing what communication methods can and can't be used to organize a protest seems highly questionable.
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Richard Hakluyt

In general that is a nasty and repressive list of measures. The ban on social media activism though..........it crosses a line imo, makes me feel like organising a protest in Spain using facebook  :mad:

(headcams to be worn at the protest by all participants)

celedhring

#19
The police thing stems actually from the fact that with the ubiquity of phones, etc... there's been a swath of viral videos depicting police brutality during protests.

Martinus

Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 03:08:09 AM
The police thing stems actually from the fact that with the ubiquity of phones, etc... there's been a swath of viral videos depicting police brutality during protests.

Yeah, well, duh. That anyone would even consider introducing such a measure, though, speaks volumes about their arrogance.

celedhring

Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2015, 03:09:29 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 03:08:09 AM
The police thing stems actually from the fact that with the ubiquity of phones, etc... there's been a swath of viral videos depicting police brutality during protests.

Yeah, well, duh. That anyone would even consider introducing such a measure, though, speaks volumes about their arrogance.

They are trying to put a gate in a world that no longer has fences.

Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 03:10:26 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2015, 03:09:29 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 03:08:09 AM
The police thing stems actually from the fact that with the ubiquity of phones, etc... there's been a swath of viral videos depicting police brutality during protests.

Yeah, well, duh. That anyone would even consider introducing such a measure, though, speaks volumes about their arrogance.

They are trying to put a gate in a world that no longer has fences.

It is becoming fairly routine here for cyclists to wear headcams and for motorists to fit dashcams. I give it another few years and just about everything that happens in a public area is going to be recorded.

Duque de Bragança

Botellón illegal? Absolutely monstruous! Will they make pic-nics illegal next?

Syt

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 03, 2015, 06:33:31 AM
Botellón illegal? Absolutely monstruous! Will they make pic-nics illegal next?

I wouldn't be surprised if it would be applied very selectively.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 03, 2015, 03:13:17 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 03:10:26 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2015, 03:09:29 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 03:08:09 AM
The police thing stems actually from the fact that with the ubiquity of phones, etc... there's been a swath of viral videos depicting police brutality during protests.

Yeah, well, duh. That anyone would even consider introducing such a measure, though, speaks volumes about their arrogance.

They are trying to put a gate in a world that no longer has fences.

It is becoming fairly routine here for cyclists to wear headcams and for motorists to fit dashcams. I give it another few years and just about everything that happens in a public area is going to be recorded.

Germany has decided that you can use dashcams, but you can't upload the footage to YouTube without consent of the filmed people. It's permitted to submit it as evidence in case of accidents, though.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

The Larch

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 03, 2015, 06:33:31 AM
Botellón illegal? Absolutely monstruous! Will they make pic-nics illegal next?

There has been a big backlash against botellón by local authorities in the last few years and it is hardly an issue as it might have been in the recent past. This is just the latest development. It's extremely difficult to enforce, though.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: The Larch on July 03, 2015, 07:34:38 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 03, 2015, 06:33:31 AM
Botellón illegal? Absolutely monstruous! Will they make pic-nics illegal next?

There has been a big backlash against botellón by local authorities in the last few years and it is hardly an issue as it might have been in the recent past. This is just the latest development. It's extremely difficult to enforce, though.

Yep, I remember botellón being the big issue in 2006-2008 or even earlier, so that makes more sense.

The Larch

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 03, 2015, 07:47:23 AM
Quote from: The Larch on July 03, 2015, 07:34:38 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 03, 2015, 06:33:31 AM
Botellón illegal? Absolutely monstruous! Will they make pic-nics illegal next?

There has been a big backlash against botellón by local authorities in the last few years and it is hardly an issue as it might have been in the recent past. This is just the latest development. It's extremely difficult to enforce, though.

Yep, I remember botellón being the big issue in 2006-2008 or even earlier, so that makes more sense.

Just to show how up to date in current issues and national priorities our government is.  :lol:

Iormlund

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 03, 2015, 03:13:17 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 03:10:26 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 03, 2015, 03:09:29 AM
Quote from: celedhring on July 03, 2015, 03:08:09 AM
The police thing stems actually from the fact that with the ubiquity of phones, etc... there's been a swath of viral videos depicting police brutality during protests.

Yeah, well, duh. That anyone would even consider introducing such a measure, though, speaks volumes about their arrogance.

They are trying to put a gate in a world that no longer has fences.

It is becoming fairly routine here for cyclists to wear headcams and for motorists to fit dashcams. I give it another few years and just about everything that happens in a public area is going to be recorded.

The next step will be to have it uploaded to the Cloud in real time (think of the children!).