EU Immigration Crisis Megathread

[Razgovory]

That's okay.  The NSA has provided us the Source Code and we have no problem letting other countries use it.

[Martinus]

Gangolf Jobb

"Immigration unnecessarily defers the collapse of capitalism, its final crisis,"

We should invite him to Languish. 

[Valmy]

How many final collapses has Capitalism had? 20? 30?

[mongers]

Worth a view if it'll run in your country, John Sweeney from the BBC follows the refugee trail into Europe, some interesting insights and personal stories:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06g01kf/panorama-europes-border-crisis-the-long-road

[Liep]

Worth a view if it'll run in your country, John Sweeney from the BBC follows the refugee trail into Europe, some interesting insights and personal stories:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06g01kf/panorama-europes-border-crisis-the-long-road

iPlayer is only available in the UK. Luckily a Dane has done the same, and it's free for all (in Danish though ).

http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/i-en-flygtnings-spor-rejsen-er-slut

[Syt]

John Oliver on the subject, and Days of Our Lives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umqvYhb3wf4

[Liep]

John Oliver on the subject, and Days of Our Lives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umqvYhb3wf4

Painful to hear Denmark mentioned in this. Usually when Denmark got airtime on the Daily Show it was because we were so happy, so green or had a silly royal family.

[Zanza]

The latest figure in the German press is that there might be up to 1.5 million migrants coming to Germany this year as we still get about 10,000 per day. If there is a harsh winter, there is no way we can adequately house that many people. Will be interesting to see how this turns out. There is also forming quite a bit of resistance against Merkel even in the two mainstream parties that make up our governing coalition. This will turn ugly with a couple of weeks.

[Martinus]

I hope Merkel prevails. Even though I do not always agree with her, she - and the Pope - are probably the only two high profile politicians in Europe right now who are trying to run politics based on ethics. Unlike, say, the British pig fucker.

[The Brain]

Yes Poland always profits from major European leaders being idealists.

[Tamas]

I hope Merkel prevails. Even though I do not always agree with her, she - and the Pope - are probably the only two high profile politicians in Europe right now who are trying to run politics based on ethics. Unlike, say, the British pig fucker.

You do realise that Germany and the EU are in talks with Erdogan about sponsoring the Turkish refugee camps in exchange of Erdogan preventing people from leaving Turkey, right?

[Tamas]

Yes Poland always profits from major European leaders being idealists.

[Zanza]

You do realise that Germany and the EU are in talks with Erdogan about sponsoring the Turkish refugee camps in exchange of Erdogan preventing people from leaving Turkey, right?

The narrative is of course not to prevent them from leaving Turkey, but to make life in those camps more bearable and support Turkey in its care for the millions of refugees. I guess it is both which makes it ethically ambigous. I can understand why people prefer to come to Europe and I think that we should try to keep our basic right to asylum alive somehow. But there is no right to come here if you have found asylum elsewhere. And while I can understand and empathize with every single individual that seeks a better life, I also see that the capability of Europe (and right now that's mainly Germany and Sweden) is limited, so we cannot take everyone on economic grounds. I have less of a problem with closing down our borders if those camps in Turkey are well-funded.

[Zanza]

I hope Merkel prevails. Even though I do not always agree with her, she - and the Pope - are probably the only two high profile politicians in Europe right now who are trying to run politics based on ethics. Unlike, say, the British pig fucker.

Apparently she's now considered for the Nobel Peace Prize. 

[Valmy]

Apparently she's now considered for the Nobel Peace Prize. 

Obama should get another one.