EU Immigration Crisis Megathread

[Tamas]

Bit of a sample of the life close to the Roszke camp. Crying children, Allahu Akbar, yelling Hungarian police, crowd brawling for space on the bus, you name it, all is here.

http://index.indavideo.hu/video/Roszke_menekultek_menekultvalsag?utm_source=flash&utm_medium=watchoninda&utm_campaign=videoplayer

Desperate people act desperately. Film at 11.

I am not exactly sure what the purpose of posting such link is.

[alfred russel]

In America, they would have shot this kid in the back and then claimed he was wielding a shotgun.

[Liep]

The situation in Rødby is getting out of control. Several hundred refugees are coming in every time a ferry arrives and the police can't handle the amount of stuff happening down there. They have to register all migrants and not let them escape, and they have to keep well-meaning people from smuggling the refugees to Sweden (a tough job as people are starting to throw stones at the police because left-wing).

All the while a ferry from Puttgarden has been circling for hours. Reports say it has 200 refugees on board and the police won't let it dock.

To be honest we should just pull a Merkel and let them through, they all want to go to Sweden any way.

[Ed Anger]

CBS caught the Greeks sabotaging refugee boats on film. Tsk tsk.

[Archy]

Our government provided nigh shelter in Brussels for 500 refugees to stop them for camping in the park next to the asylum seekers registration office. Only 14 took up the offer.  The rest stayed camping.
Also govt will only process 250 asylum seekers per day. Now there are daily updates in the newspapers how many there have been processed

[Liep]

No.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/09/09/when-it-comes-to-refugees-scandinavia-isnt-quite-the-promised-land/

[Liep]

Refugees keep arriving but luckily an ex-princess has had her 2nd divorce and has left her banker husband so now the tabloids have other things to write about.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I don't see how this proposed quota for refugees is compatible with Schengen :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34193568

Say a refugee is assigned to Poland but wants to move to Germany, what will stop him? Or will the refugees be held in camps encircled by barbed wire and watchtowers?

[Liep]

I don't see how this proposed quota for refugees is compatible with Schengen :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34193568

Say a refugee is assigned to Poland but wants to move to Germany, what will stop him? Or will the refugees be held in camps encircled by barbed wire and watchtowers?

Nothing will stop him, but he wouldn't be able to work, buy/rent housing or receive welfare benefits in Germany if he's not a national citizen of EU, which he presumably won't be for a while. Makes being in Germany not so fun.

[Martinus]

Yup, as Liep said Schengen is about lack of border controls only - it does not automatically convey free movement of workers and services on any beneficiary - EU citizens continue to be the only beneficiaries of the system.

[Martinus]

CBS caught the Greeks sabotaging refugee boats on film. Tsk tsk.

Beware Greeks bearing gifts. They probably had to take out loans to buy the gifts, so you will probably end up paying for them somehow anyway.

[Tamas]

I don't see how this proposed quota for refugees is compatible with Schengen :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34193568

Say a refugee is assigned to Poland but wants to move to Germany, what will stop him? Or will the refugees be held in camps encircled by barbed wire and watchtowers?

Nothing will stop him, but he wouldn't be able to work, buy/rent housing or receive welfare benefits in Germany if he's not a national citizen of EU, which he presumably won't be for a while. Makes being in Germany not so fun.

Unless of course he travels to Germany, tears up his papers and claims he just arrived from his country of origin as an asylum seeker.
Maybe we could get an EU-wide fingerprint database of asylum seekers but logistics aside they already do not want to give their fingerprints until they arrive to Germany, so will we force them to give them? What if refuses? Send them back on that account?

[Liep]

That's what we do right now, if they refuse to be registered and give fingerprints to the police we send them back across the border (there already is an EU-wide fingerprint database for asylum seekers).

So they will never be granted asylum anywhere if they continue to refuse this, obviously this will require countries like Germany and Austria to actually make an effort to uphold EU-law.

[Liep]

Of course, when there's 200 people arriving at one time the police is struggling a bit to keep up. But I'm not sure number tagging the refugees with a permanent marker is the way to go.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

it's not like it's a tattoo... now that's permanent (until removed)