Supreme Court Agrees to Settle Meaning of ‘One Person One Vote’

[Eddie Teach]

I'm on so many forums it's hard to remember what I've post where. 

You're not a professional Russian troll by any chance?

[The Minsky Moment]

I could see the court going either way with this one.

This is the same case you posted about a couple weeks ago ...

I'm on so many forums it's hard to remember what I've post where. 

OK. but.
Late time you pitched it like it was an outrage that needed explaining.  Different tone this time around.

[DGuller]

I'm on so many forums it's hard to remember what I've post where. 

You're not a professional Russian troll by any chance?

He's not.

[jimmy olsen]

I could see the court going either way with this one.

This is the same case you posted about a couple weeks ago ...

I'm on so many forums it's hard to remember what I've post where. 

OK. but.
Late time you pitched it like it was an outrage that needed explaining.  Different tone this time around.

I'm still against it, but the New York Times can make anything seem boring, thus influencing my commentary.

[The Brain]

Will they next settle the meaning of "No woman no cry"?

[Eddie Teach]

Will they next settle the meaning of "No woman no cry"?

How about 2 legit 2 quit?

[Tonitrus]

Will they next settle the meaning of "No woman no cry"?

How about 2 legit 2 quit?

What does REO Speedwagon mean when they say she takes it on the run?

[MadImmortalMan]

What does REO Speedwagon mean when they say she takes it on the run?

I always wondered that too.   

[Eddie Teach]

It's a kinkier version of a three-legged race.

[derspiess]

LOL Tim

[jimmy olsen]

The court rules in favor of the people! 

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/29/418521823/supreme-court-backs-arizonas-redistricting-commission-targeting-gridlock

Supreme Court Backs Arizona's Redistricting Commission Targeting Gridlock
   

June 29, 201510:47 AM ET

Bill Chappell


U.S. states' efforts to counter extreme gerrymandering won a victory Monday, as the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a bipartisan Arizona panel that draws the state's districts. The court's vote was 5-4; Chief Justice John Roberts dissented, as did Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg wrote the opinion for the majority, in which her citations included James Madison writing in The Federalist Papers.

"The people of Arizona turned to the initiative to curb the practice of gerrymandering," Ginsberg wrote, "and, thereby, to ensure that Members of Congress would have 'an habitual recollection of their dependence on the people.' "

Ginsberg continued, quoting a 2005 gerrymandering case: "In so acting, Arizona voters sought to restore 'the core principle of republican government,' namely, 'that the voters should choose their representatives, not the other way around.' "

Arizona's Independent Redistricting Commission was formed 15 years ago, after the state's voters approved Proposition 106 and amended the state's constitution to take redistricting power away from the Legislature (which later filed suit).

In his dissent, Roberts said that the majority's position "has no basis in the text, structure, or history of the Constitution, and it contradicts precedents from both Congress and this Court."

Saying that if the people of Arizona want to change the electoral process, they should focus on passing an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, Roberts concluded, "Unfortunately, today's decision will only discourage this democratic method of change."

As for the effects Arizona's commission has had, here's what Arizona Public Media reports:

"The independent commission drew boundaries after the 2000 census and again after the 2010 census. In the 2012 election, five Democrats and four Republicans were elected to Congress in Arizona. In 2014, five Republicans and four Democrats were elected."

The case could have effects far beyond Arizona; more than a dozen other states, including California, have adopted similar processes as they try to break up partisan gridlock that results from drawing polarized districts.

Today's ruling has been hotly anticipated, particularly ahead of the 2016 election cycle. The ruling "could affect as many as one-third of congressional districts," NPR's Jessica Taylor writes for It's All Politics.

A large part of the debate over the case hinged on one word: "legislature."

From the Constitution's clause on elections:

"The times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof."

The two sides have argued over whether "legislature" in the clause can be interpreted to refer to voters who enact a law via ballot initiative.

When the case was argued back in March, the Arizona Legislature's lawyer, Paul Clement, said, "The whole idea of the Constitution was that we're going to form a republican government, that we can't have direct democracy."

The Constitution, Clement said, gave authority over elections to elected officials, not to the public. But Ginsberg and the rest of the majority disagreed, mentioning not only the efforts to combat gerrymandering but also dozens of voter initiatives that shape how Americans vote, such as mail-in ballots and voter ID laws.

But Chief Justice Roberts did not agree — and he cited the 1913 shift in how U.S. senators are chosen to show his disapproval. He wrote:

"Just over a century ago, Arizona became the second State in the Union to ratify the Seventeenth Amendment. That Amendment transferred power to choose United States Senators from the Legislature' of each State, Art. I, §3, to 'the people thereof.' The Amendment resulted from an arduous, decades-long campaign in which reformers across the country worked hard to garner approval from Congress and three-quarters of the States.

"What chumps! Didn't they realize that all they had to do was interpret the constitutional term 'the Legislature' to mean 'the people'? The Court today performs just such a magic trick with the Elections Clause."

Here's how NPR's Nina Totenberg described the case back in March:



"In a state with 35 percent registered Republicans, 35 percent Independents, and 30 percent Democrats, the congressional map the commission drew had four safe Republican seats, two safe Democratic seats, and three competitive districts.

"Infuriated Republican state legislators wanted a bigger slice of the pie, however, and after the Arizona Supreme Court frustrated their effort to fire the commission's chair, they challenged the commission as unconstitutional, appealing all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court."

Update at 1:30 p.m. ET: Reactions To The Ruling

Attorney General Loretta Lynch says the ruling "vindicated the rights of voters who want their electoral districts drawn fairly, independently and without undue emphasis on partisan affiliation or political creed."

Calling the Arizona approach is "common-sense reform," the ACLU's Dale Ho says, "In essence, it says voters can keep the fox from guarding the henhouse."

"The Constitution is not a barrier to states who want to address the problem of partisan gerrymandering," says Wendy Weiser, who directs of the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law.

[Admiral Yi]

Is this the one about whether illegals should be counted?  If so, a surprisingly incomplete article from npr.

[jimmy olsen]

Is this the one about whether illegals should be counted?  If so, a surprisingly incomplete article from npr.

Whoops, got my voting rights threads mixed up.

[derspiess]

LOL Tim

[jimmy olsen]

LOL Tim

I did a quick search and didn't bother to actually check the article in the opening post.  Just posted this ine.