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Jeb Bush's Sketchy Nigerian Business Deals

Started by jimmy olsen, June 12, 2015, 04:11:22 AM

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LaCroix

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 13, 2015, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on June 13, 2015, 01:54:17 PM
"not that puzzling" is key. you don't want possibly puzzling sentences. you want no puzzling sentences.

Then I assume you never use any pronouns.

you can use pronouns if there's no intervening noun that might muck it up. you always assume the reader is reasonably intelligent.

"tom went to the store with dick, and tom thought he saw jane."

"tom went to the store with jane, and he bought pop while she bought chips."

etc.

MWI and boko are both "it"s, so MWI should have been repeated in the last section. you rewrite sentences to avoid situations where you've repeated someone's name fifty thousand times.

Admiral Yi

Who did Tom think saw Jane? ^_^

A reasonable person is going to infer that Tom thought Tom saw Jane.  Likewise, a reasonable person is going to infer that MWI had a factory.

LaCroix

well, not so fast! a huge consideration is how many words are between the noun and the pronoun.

"tom thought he" has one word in between.

but, "MWI no longer works in Nigeria, in part thanks to the extremist group Boko Haram, which is active in Maiduguri, where its plant was located" has twenty words in between.

the "how many words in between" idea also applies to things like subject-verb, etc.

Admiral Yi

Ah, so an attention span argument more than an ambiguity argument.

LaCroix

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 13, 2015, 03:31:52 PM
Ah, so an attention span argument more than an ambiguity argument.

i mean, ambiguity depends on how you look at it. a reader that's carried through a long and windy sentence might find a later "it" initially ambiguous without a re-read. but yeah, i meant ambiguity as a result of attention span.

Siege

Does the word nigger comes from Nigeria?
Is there a relation?



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege

Also, how many of you jumped at seing the word nigger above?

I know I jump when I see it and scream RACISSSS!!!1111

Just wondering where we are in political correctness...


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Valmy

Quote from: Siege on June 15, 2015, 12:12:27 PM
Does the word nigger comes from Nigeria?
Is there a relation?



Thought it came from the Latin word for black person. But the majority of American slaves came from there so who knows?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Siege on June 15, 2015, 12:14:12 PM
Also, how many of you jumped at seing the word nigger above?

I am pretty desensitized when I see it online. I cannot even remember the last time somebody said it offline. Damn. Over a decade at least.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Siege

Quote from: Valmy on June 15, 2015, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 15, 2015, 12:12:27 PM
Does the word nigger comes from Nigeria?
Is there a relation?



Thought it came from the Latin word for black person. But the majority of American slaves came from there so who knows?

Latin?

Nero? Nah, nero is in Italian, not latin.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Barrister

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

alfred russel

Quote from: Barrister on June 15, 2015, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 15, 2015, 12:12:27 PM
Does the word nigger comes from Nigeria?
Is there a relation?

http://bfy.tw/Lk1

And by typing that google on a work computer to help Siege answer his question, BB inadvertently ended any chance of ascending to a high political office.   :(
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Barrister

Quote from: alfred russel on June 15, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 15, 2015, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 15, 2015, 12:12:27 PM
Does the word nigger comes from Nigeria?
Is there a relation?

http://bfy.tw/Lk1

And by typing that google on a work computer to help Siege answer his question, BB inadvertently ended any chance of ascending to a high political office.   :(

I work in criminal law.

I think the over/under on the number of times I'll say "fuck" in court this afternoon is six. 

All in quotations, of course. -_-
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Barrister

Quote from: Barrister on June 15, 2015, 02:03:29 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 15, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 15, 2015, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 15, 2015, 12:12:27 PM
Does the word nigger comes from Nigeria?
Is there a relation?

http://bfy.tw/Lk1

And by typing that google on a work computer to help Siege answer his question, BB inadvertently ended any chance of ascending to a high political office.   :(

I work in criminal law.

I think the over/under on the number of times I'll say "fuck" in court this afternoon is six. 

All in quotations, of course. -_-

For those in the betting crowd, you should've taken the Over.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.