Stocks and Trading Thread - Channeling your inner Mono

Started by MadImmortalMan, December 21, 2009, 04:32:41 AM

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Josquius

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on April 04, 2025, 08:39:31 AM
Quote from: mongers on April 04, 2025, 07:54:45 AMDo the Chinese use red for positive and green for negative stock price moves?

I'm confused by this masthead image from the bbc live page:

As noted it's Japan, and based on the individual securities visible on the left it does look like red is positive and green is negative, as the stocks that are up are colored red on the left.

Apparently in the old days when everything was manual, buy slips were red and sell slips were blue/green and it derives from this (though surely buying would put prices up?) Nothing to do with bad and good.
Worse is their use of tick to mean fail.
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HVC

Only silver lining, small that it is, is watching MAGA idiots cry about their loses.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Valmy

Quote from: HVC on April 04, 2025, 05:17:38 PMOnly silver lining, small that it is, is watching MAGA idiots cry about their loses.

They will be brainwashed back into supporting him soon. It is of little comfort. Like all those people who said they were done with him after January 6th who then voted for him in 2024 anyway.
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HVC

Quote from: Valmy on April 04, 2025, 07:04:55 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 04, 2025, 05:17:38 PMOnly silver lining, small that it is, is watching MAGA idiots cry about their loses.

They will be brainwashed back into supporting him soon. It is of little comfort. Like all those people who said they were done with him after January 6th who then voted for him in 2024 anyway.

Yeah, he still has a large approval rating. And once people get used to their new reality* stocks will go back up and the rich who can buy in the dip will get richer. But in the meantime it's all I have :D

*no idea how long it'll take, but it'll happen.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on April 04, 2025, 07:08:02 PMAnd once people get used to their new reality* stocks will go back up

I'll take that bet.

HVC

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2025, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 04, 2025, 07:08:02 PMAnd once people get used to their new reality* stocks will go back up

I'll take that bet.

Just to understand the  parameters, you believe that, with tariffs remaining in place, stock prices won't go back up? What's the time frame for the recovery you're offering for the bet?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on April 04, 2025, 07:32:39 PMJust to understand the  parameters, you believe that, with tariffs remaining in place, stock prices won't go back up? What's the time frame for the recovery you're offering for the bet?

So good with numbers, those Portagee.

Of course stocks will go back up.  Every dip/correction/crash has a bottom.

It's the timing of the bottom that I don't agree with.  I won't be triggered by some magical shift in thought patterns.  It will be triggered by recovery in earnings.

HVC

Aren't recovery in earnings brought in part by consumer habits? Those would be altered by shifting thought patterns, would they not? Ie consumers getting used to the new reality of trumps tariff wars world?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on April 04, 2025, 09:56:06 PMAren't recovery in earnings brought in part by consumer habits? Those would be altered by shifting thought patterns, would they not? Ie consumers getting used to the new reality of trumps tariff wars world?

Sure, I think so.  But only a specific thought pattern, according to mainstream econ.  Thought patterns about the future of the economy and their individual financial situation.

That's why I called this as the Achilles heel of Trumpism.  You can't myth make your way out of a lower standard of living.