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Habbaku

#15
June 01, 2015, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 01, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
What is the big knock on Paul, other than his crazy dad?

He has said some vaguely anti-gay things, like he's "offended" by gay marriage (but wants civil unions for homosexual couples--just not marriage).  Also, I suspect they disagree with his strident, limited-government stands on most issues.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Habbaku

#16
June 01, 2015, 04:35:21 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2015, 04:21:17 PM
There's an "R" next to his name.

That's certainly part of it.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Razgovory

#17
June 01, 2015, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 01, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
What is the big knock on Paul, other than his crazy dad?

The same reason Habbuku likes him.  He's a man who watches Mad Max and says, "Yeah, that's a good idea!".
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Habbaku

#18
June 01, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
Raz swoops in with his usual degree of lucidity.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Razgovory

#19
June 01, 2015, 06:27:20 PM
Libertariansm is a contemptible cult, and should be stamped out when ever it rears it's serpentine head.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Habbaku

#20
June 01, 2015, 06:33:10 PM
Enlightening, as always, Raz.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

garbon

#21
June 01, 2015, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 01, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
What is the big knock on Paul, other than his crazy dad?

Wiki offered me up several things:

Opposes gun control legislation
Opposes the department of education
Opposed the Employment Non-Discrimination Act because he wanted to include religious exemptions
Thinks vaccinations should be voluntary
Wants more money spent on physical barriers and drones to secure the border
Embraces the line of you can have gay marriage but don't call it marriage
Would like a federal ban on abortion
Seems to think the free market is the tonic for our many ills (which appears to include the Federal Reserve)
Would like to deny citizenship to children born to illegal immigrants in the US
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

#22
June 01, 2015, 06:54:29 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2015, 06:33:10 PM
Enlightening, as always, Raz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUs1EV3QvA

I can let them speak for themselves.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#23
June 01, 2015, 06:55:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 01, 2015, 06:38:47 PM
Would like to deny citizenship to children born to illegal immigrants in the US

I like this idea.

The Minsky Moment

#24
June 01, 2015, 06:56:12 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 01, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
What is the big knock on Paul, other than his crazy dad?

What's the difference between him and crazy dad, other than the haircut and a apparent willingness to compromise on isolationism?
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Habbaku

#25
June 01, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2015, 06:54:29 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2015, 06:33:10 PM
Enlightening, as always, Raz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUs1EV3QvA

I can let them speak for themselves.

This is why people ignore you.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Razgovory

#26
June 01, 2015, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 01, 2015, 06:56:12 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 01, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
What is the big knock on Paul, other than his crazy dad?

What's the difference between him and crazy dad, other than the haircut and a apparent willingness to compromise on isolationism?

Abortion.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#27
June 01, 2015, 07:02:15 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2015, 06:54:29 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2015, 06:33:10 PM
Enlightening, as always, Raz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUs1EV3QvA

I can let them speak for themselves.

This is why people ignore you.

It's hard to convince a cultist.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

#28
June 01, 2015, 07:02:40 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 01, 2015, 06:55:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 01, 2015, 06:38:47 PM
Would like to deny citizenship to children born to illegal immigrants in the US

I like this idea.
Violates the 14th amendment and is unamerican bullshit to boot.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Habbaku

#29
June 01, 2015, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2015, 07:02:15 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2015, 06:54:29 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2015, 06:33:10 PM
Enlightening, as always, Raz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUs1EV3QvA

I can let them speak for themselves.

This is why people ignore you.

It's hard to convince a cultist.

Nothing like non stop ad homs to convince someone.  I'm sorry I bothered to try to get you to realize why people ignore you.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien
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