Europeans, Pacificsm and Desertion

[Martinus]

Game, set, match: Jaron

Yeah, good going, gyppo. How does it feel to be on the same side as Jaron, Neil, lettow and Martim Silva? I can see how you can consider them your betters, though.

throwing insults around is admitting defeat

He starts most of his post by "You are retarded". 

And he loses most arguments

Nonsense.

[Sheilbh]

I think there's an interesting difference in views.  Tim and others seem to think the purpose of monuments is to honour the sacrifices made; RH and others point out that in the UK, with WW1 especially, it's far more to remember the sacrifices.

[Razgovory]

I think there's an interesting difference in views.  Tim and others seem to think the purpose of monuments is to honour the sacrifices made; RH and others point out that in the UK, with WW1 especially, it's far more to remember the sacrifices.

Explain the difference.

[Sheilbh]

Explain the difference.

Honouring, to me, seems closer to justifying the war in a 'support our boys' way.  Remembering is about just that, it's about remembering the sacrifices.  I think anything to do with WW1 that were seen as supportive of the war would be weird in this country.  It's had a huge cultural impact.  Remembering the soldiers who fought in what's seen as a futile, incompetent, bloody and brutal war in which lions were led by donkeys is different because you can remember those who deserted and were shot, despite suffering from extreme shell-shock and you can remember the French mutineers who refused all offensive missions.  Whereas I think Tim's right: if your goal is to honour, then how can you do it without dishonouring the rest?