A North Carolina education bill would be a disaster for research and pedagogy

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Nothing less than sabotage. :bleeding:

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/education/2015/04/north_carolina_education_bill_it_would_require_public_university_professors.html?wpisrc=obnetwork

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A North Carolina education bill would be a disaster for research and pedagogy.

By Rebecca Schuman

In higher-ed parlance the herculean act of teaching eight courses per year is what's known as "a 4-4 load" or, alternatively, a "metric ass-ton" of classroom time. And yet a new bill currently under consideration in the North Carolina General Assembly would require every professor in the state's public university system to do just that. The results would be catastrophic for North Carolina's major research universities. The region known as the Research Triangle—Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill, so named because of the three "Research-I"–level universities that anchor it—would quickly lose two of its prongs—the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and North Carolina State University—were this bill to pass. And it just might.

According to the official press release from its sponsor, Republican state Sen. Tom McInnis, Senate Bill 593—called "Improve Professor Quality/UNC System"—would "ensure that students attending UNC system schools actually have professors, rather than student assistants, teaching their classes." Another result would be more courses taught by fewer professors. But that shouldn't matter, according to Jay Schalin of North Carolina's Pope Center for Higher Education Policy, who recently explained to the Daily Tar Heel that "the university system is not a jobs program for academics." What the bill's supporters either fail to realize—or, more likely, realize with utter glee—is that this bill actually has nothing to do with "professor quality" and everything to do with destroying public education and research. Forcing everyone into a 4-4 minimum (so ideally an excruciating 5-5, I guess?) is a "solution" that could only be proposed by someone who either doesn't know how research works or hates it. It's like saying: Hey, I'll fix this car by treating it like a microwave.

Teaching college, especially if you're good at it, isn't particularly hard. But it does take time—and those 75 minutes in the classroom are the least of it. There are the office hours (which most students eschew for for professor as 24-hour email concierge); there's the prep (anywhere from two to 10 hours for one class meeting); and then, of course, there are the hours upon hours—upon godforsaken hours—of grading. Four (or five!) courses, even with the shortcuts afforded by a teaching assistant here and there (which most people don't get), are a full-time job in and of themselves.

A course load that high leaves little if any time for serious research: You know, trivial stuff like professor David Margolis' team investigating potentially lifesaving HIV drugs; professor David Neil Hayes' work on cancer genomics; and professor Bruce Cairns' leadership of one of the only burn centers in North Carolina. These folks may also be spectacular pedagogues, but they were not hired to teach. And honestly I don't care how good of a teacher someone is if he saves the life of my burned child—and neither, I am betting, do you. (These all happen to be professors of medicine, but SB 593 makes no provisions about professional or graduate schools. Its text quite clearly says "all professors." I learned attention to detail and reading comprehension in college, from professors who had reasonable course loads.)

At any rate, if you think SB 593 is about "improving" instructional quality at all, you are either a cynic or a sucker. As UNC law professor Michael Gerhardt put it to me, this bill is "politically driven, and not pedagogically driven. The political forces have aligned against the public university system, as well as the public schools more generally"; the right's goal is to "redesign it, weaken it, narrow it, redirect it. Some would be quite happy to close it all down."

Whether or not the stated goal is to "close it all down," that will definitely be the result. The professors forced into a 4-4 will simply pick up their research—and the labs where that research gets done, and those labs' workforces, much of them nonacademics, Mr. Schalin—and move them somewhere that will fund them. With the inevitable cratering of UNC–Chapel Hill and NC State, the Research Triangle will become the Research Dot, and the 50,000 individuals North Carolina currently employs in Research Triangle Park—a massive conglomerate of nonacademic research labs located where it is precisely because of its proximity to Duke, UNC, and NC State—will have their livelihoods put in danger. It's easy to sneer that the university isn't a "jobs program" until you have to answer for your state's brain drain.

SB 593 would also herald the unwelcome but not unexpected casualization of even the highest strata of UNC's research professors, forcing them to take on similar teaching loads (albeit with marginally better pay) than the adjuncts who currently shoulder a majority of this country's postsecondary instruction. The North Carolina debacle-in-waiting serves as abject proof that, as tenured history professor and Slate contributor Jonathan Rees has written recently, adjunctification moves upward as well as downward. "Working conditions will gradually drift towards the level of the least compensated among us, not the best," he writes. "What's that you say? You think you're special? You do research? Tell that to every professor at a public university in North Carolina."

Indeed, if the UNC schools implement a systemwide 4-4 minimum with "success"—that is, if somehow tuition revenue doesn't drop—there will be little to stop other meddlesome, ignorant state legislatures from following suit. This will accomplish nothing less than the wholesale obliteration of the public research institution and relocate all of America's best scientific minds—and their labs and their discoveries—to the elite private universities. Want to grow up to be a molecular biologist, Iowa farm girl? Do you dream of studying in a world-class engineering school, inner-city Michigan boy? Better hope you get into—and can afford—Princeton or MIT.

I reached out to Gerhardt because I wanted a North Carolina legal expert to tell me to calm my hormones, that this bill is a silly anti-intellectual showpiece with no chance of passing. My hormones were not calmed. "I don't know," he told me after a pregnant pause. "I think there's enough antipathy toward UNC and enough skepticism about UNC and education that [if SB 593 passes] it won't surprise me." It won't surprise me, either—but perhaps if enough people start to recognize the disingenuous doublespeak of this kind of "improvement" legislation, the bill will be the last of its kind instead of the first.
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Martinus

Ide, you should read: http://www.amazon.com/Defense-Liberal-Education-Fareed-Zakaria/dp/0393247686

Your condemnation of liberal arts is one of your dumbest views (and God knows you have a shitload of those).

Martinus

Tim, could you give an executive summary of what exactly the proposal does? This is slate so they seem to be hyping it but do not offer any concrete information, at least in the first few paragraphs.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Martinus on April 23, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
Tim, could you give an executive summary of what exactly the proposal does? This is slate so they seem to be hyping it but do not offer any concrete information, at least in the first few paragraphs.

It says right in the second sentence, the bill would require every professor at state universities to teach 8 classes a year.
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grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on April 23, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
This is slate so they seem to be hyping it but do not offer any concrete information, at least in the first few paragraphs.

There's your problem.  Timmay is like some of my slower students, who don't seem to realize that not everything on the internet is true.  Slate, Wired, blogs... all of them are highly dubious sources of information, and should never be cited here except as part of a point-and-laugh thread.
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Quote from: Martinus on April 23, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
Tim, could you give an executive summary of what exactly the proposal does? This is slate so they seem to be hyping it but do not offer any concrete information, at least in the first few paragraphs.

Drastically increase teaching workload, which will come at the expense of research output.

I don't know how the US academic system works, but if it is anything like the UK system, then that will have an adverse effect because funding, reputation and career progression result from research, not teaching.
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grumbler

Incidentally, if you look up the statute, you will see that what the bill does is not what Slate claims (no surprise), but rather it says that salaries of NC professors will be based on the assumption that they teach a full load, and will be reduced if they don't.  Salaries can be supplemented by research endowments to make up the difference.  In other words, the state only pays salaries when the professor is working in education.

Unsurprisingly, Slate fails to note that 4 courses (12 class sessions per week) is the expected workload for a full-time professor at pretty much every university.  They define the standard as "Herculean" because they know their regular readers are idiots and will believe their bullshit.
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grumbler

Quote from: Warspite on April 23, 2015, 06:16:33 AM
Drastically increase teaching workload, which will come at the expense of research output.

I don't know how the US academic system works, but if it is anything like the UK system, then that will have an adverse effect because funding, reputation and career progression result from research, not teaching.

This isn't a "drastic increase."  In 2012, UNC professors taught an average of 3.7 courses per semester. http://www.popecenter.org/acrobat/pope_articles/faculty_teaching_loads.pdf  For tenure-track professors, the level is lower, to be sure, and this will need to be taken into account in the law (because tenure depends on research and publication more than teaching), but all the "herculean/drastic/sabotage" language is unwarranted.

One of my college fraternity brothers, who is afull professor at the University of Michigan, makes little of his salary from teaching the two or so courses per year that he teaches.  Most of his salary comes from his research grants.  All of the pay for his graduate students comes from grants, as well.
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Jaron

This is a crushing load. I can't believe NC expects their professors to go to perform such Herculean feats...

This is inhumane.
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Warspite

Quote from: grumbler on April 23, 2015, 06:35:00 AM
Quote from: Warspite on April 23, 2015, 06:16:33 AM
Drastically increase teaching workload, which will come at the expense of research output.

I don't know how the US academic system works, but if it is anything like the UK system, then that will have an adverse effect because funding, reputation and career progression result from research, not teaching.

This isn't a "drastic increase."  In 2012, UNC professors taught an average of 3.7 courses per semester. http://www.popecenter.org/acrobat/pope_articles/faculty_teaching_loads.pdf  For tenure-track professors, the level is lower, to be sure, and this will need to be taken into account in the law (because tenure depends on research and publication more than teaching), but all the "herculean/drastic/sabotage" language is unwarranted.

One of my college fraternity brothers, who is afull professor at the University of Michigan, makes little of his salary from teaching the two or so courses per year that he teaches.  Most of his salary comes from his research grants.  All of the pay for his graduate students comes from grants, as well.

Hmm. That paper you cite actually claims that the official reporting of teaching loads is inflated, using ASU as an illustrative case study of what it claims is a system-wide problem:

Quote... because it appears that many other schools in the system have average teaching loads inflated similarly to Appalachian State's, practices and data in the entire system must be examined to see whether problems and inaccuracies exist throughout.

Neverthless, I don't know anything about the NC education system - I was only providing a one line summary of the article for Marty. I agree with you that the article is written in something less than an impartial, analytical style.
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grumbler

Quote from: Warspite on April 23, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
Hmm. That paper you cite actually claims that the official reporting of teaching loads is inflated, using ASU as an illustrative case study of what it claims is a system-wide problem:

In terms of what is actually taught, the number is inflated, but it would be the inflated number that would count in the NC bill, so the inflation doesn't mean much for the comparisons we are making.

I didn't realize that you were summarizing the article, not expressing an opinion, so my response to you isn't actually in response to you at all.  :Embarrass:
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Razgovory

Holy fuck, I'm agreeing with Grumbler.  I'm not bothered that more professors of Gender studies are forced to actually teach classes rather then write articles that inevitably end up in the Internet cesspool that is Slate.
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Quote from: grumbler on April 23, 2015, 06:24:41 AM

Unsurprisingly, Slate fails to note that 4 courses (12 class sessions per week) is the expected workload for a full-time professor at pretty much every university.

No it isn't. Not in R1 institutions.
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It seems slightly odd to me that a matter such as the funding of professors re: teaching load would be legislated at the state level.
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