Hitler was worse than Stalin

[Syt]

Well, that debate is finally settled, then.

http://tass.ru/en/russia/789871

Putin: Nazism, Stalinism can't be equalized

Extermination of entire ethnoses was one of the aims of Nazis' policy, but the Stalin regime never set the goal of exterminating entire peoples, the Russian leader says

MOSCOW, April 16. /TASS/. Nazism and Stalinism can't be equalized, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday during an annual question and answer session officially known as "The Direct Line with Vladimir Putin."

"It's impossible to equalize Nazism and Stalinism," Putin said. "Because Nazis directly, openly and publicly declared extermination of entire ethnoses — Jews, Gypsies and Slavs — one of the aims of their policy."

He added that "even taking into account the ugliness of the Stalinist regime, all repressions, exiles of entire nations, the regime never set the goal of exterminating entire peoples."

"The attempt to equalize these and those is absolutely ungrounded," Putin said.

At the same time, he admitted that predecessors gave a reason for such a comparison.

"After the Second World War, we tried to impose on East European countries our model of development and did it by force," Putin said. He said it was not good and is "keeps backfiring on us today."

"By the way, Americans are behaving in the same manner, trying to impose their model practically worldwide," he said. "They are in for a failure too."

[Caliga]

Is he wrong?

I don't think Stalin wanted to exterminate any peoples, he just wanted them to live in different places and experience new things.

[The Brain]

Communism is nice. And I don't say that just because I wear glasses and speak a foreign language and know that I will get murdered if Communists come to power in Sweden.

[Valmy]

"By the way, Americans are behaving in the same manner, trying to impose their model practically worldwide," he said. "They are in for a failure too."

The real point here is that Amerikkka is worse than both.

[Siege]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPsLB11POtQ

[Josephus]

I think they are both greatly misunderstood, because both were on the wrong side of history.

[Monoriu]

Just on this point, I actually agree with Putin.  If I have to choose, I will also say that Hitler was worse than Stalin. 

[derspiess]

It's kind of nice that he semi-acknowledges Soviet oppression post-WWII but to call it imposing a "model of development" is an interesting choice of words. 

He'll occasionally acknowledge that the Soviet Union did bad things, but he has to immediately follow up by slinging shit at everyone else.

[Valmy]

I think they are both greatly misunderstood, because both were on the wrong side of history.

Yeah but the reason they were both on the wrong side of history has alot to do with their actions. As in: if Hitler had created a peaceful prosperous racist Germany history would think of Fascism very differently.

[Admiral Yi]

It's kind of nice that he semi-acknowledges Soviet oppression post-WWII but to call it imposing a "model of development" is an interesting choice of words. 

"Impose" carries a lot of meaning too.

[Siege]

Hitler and Stalin were the same in my book.
They both killed millions of jews.
That it was done for different reasons makes not difference to the victims.

[Valmy]

Hitler and Stalin were the same in my book.
They both killed millions of jews.
That it was don't for different reasons makes not difference to the victims.

Eh I would like my chances better as a Jew under Stalin.

[grumbler]

Stalin killed people he thought deserved to die
Hitler killed people he thought didn't deserve to live.
Those are different levels of evil, and the Hitler level is worse. 

That doesn't make Stalin good, of course.

[grumbler]

Hitler and Stalin were the same in my book.
They both killed millions of jews.
That it was don't for different reasons makes not difference to the victims.

Eh I would like my chances better as a Jew under Stalin.

  You are still thinking the Siege shtick is worth responding to?  I enjoy it, but can't even pretend to take it seriously.

[Valmy]

  You are still thinking the Siege shtick is worth responding to?  I enjoy it, but can't even pretend to take it seriously.

I am just not very good at remembering who is worth responding to and who isn't. Oh I have tried in the past. I have thought many times 'why do I even talk to Hortlund...er...random poster? Best to just ignore his posts from now on.'

But I forget and do it anyway. And even when I do remember I lack the self discipline.