Slavery Poll

[Martinus]

0 hours contracts are what will get us all killed in a revolution. Mark my words.

[crazy canuck]

What is a 0 hour contract?

[Martinus]

What is a 0 hour contract?

Essentially a contract with an external contractor who is a de facto employee but only gets paid for the hours actually worked (hence the "0 hours" as he or she gets no guarantee about pay/work in a given period) and enjoys no protections of a traditional employee.

More and more service providers (such as cleaners and the like) are getting employed this way in Europe.

[Razgovory]

I went with never.
Just too much trouble.
You have to feed them and dress them, provide a roof, and chase them when they run.

I would rather have employees.
There is a reason why capitalism destroyed slavery.

It did?  How do you figure that?

[Ed Anger]

Hot chick slaves.

[Eddie Teach]

It did?  How do you figure that?

Because slavery was not competitive with wage labor in factories.

[sbr]

Because the slaves destroyed all of the machinery.

[Sheilbh]

What is a 0 hour contract?

Essentially a contract with an external contractor who is a de facto employee but only gets paid for the hours actually worked (hence the "0 hours" as he or she gets no guarantee about pay/work in a given period) and enjoys no protections of a traditional employee.

More and more service providers (such as cleaners and the like) are getting employed this way in Europe.

Isn't that just American employment law?

It's a big issue with shop workers and the like in the UK too. The Lib Dems and Labour are both promising to abolish them.

[MadImmortalMan]

It's a big issue with shop workers and the like in the UK too. The Lib Dems and Labour are both promising to abolish them.

They can try, but there will always be ways around it.

[PDH]

Gor slaves?

[Ed Anger]

Gor slaves?

[grumbler]

Gor slaves?

I'd enslave houseplants, like on Gor: http://www.rdrop.com/users/wyvern/data/houseplants.html

[Ed Anger]

Gor slaves?

I'd enslave houseplants, like on Gor: http://www.rdrop.com/users/wyvern/data/houseplants.html

*unzips pants*

[Monoriu]

What is a 0 hour contract?

Essentially a contract with an external contractor who is a de facto employee but only gets paid for the hours actually worked (hence the "0 hours" as he or she gets no guarantee about pay/work in a given period) and enjoys no protections of a traditional employee.

More and more service providers (such as cleaners and the like) are getting employed this way in Europe.

That actually sounds better than what employees get in Hong Kong.  At least they get paid for hours worked.  One of the chief labour complaints in HK is that employers can get away with demanding extra hours from employees and not paying overtime, because there is no requirement to specify the number of working hours in the contract.

[Sheilbh]

These people aren't paid overtime for the most part Mono and they're paid by the hour. Does that not exist in Hong Kong?