White cop charged with murder in death of unarmed black man

[PDH]

I sure hope he gets decent representation better than Manson or Bundy, since both Bundy and Manson represented themselves. The latter rested his defence without calling in a single witness to the stand.

Jesus could represent himself

[Eddie Teach]

Jesus could represent himself

He should have accepted the plea bargain.

[PDH]

Jesus could represent himself

He should have accepted the plea bargain.

Christ don't do time.

[Drakken]

Jesus could represent himself

He sure did. He presented no defence.

He might have been the Messiah, but he was a very poor lawyer.

[Martinus]

My point was that, since every accused deserves a decent representation, saying that is trite - so unless you intend to say it every time someone goes on trial, the question is why you would say it in this specific case. Unless you had some sort of sympathy for the accused - which I would find inexplicable in this case.

[Martinus]

By comparison, I don't see anyone in the Tsarnaev thread making similar alusions to the presumption of innocence or saying that he "deserves" a good lawyer when the jury was still out. Makes you wonder what exactly is the difference between both cases - as in both the evidence seems to be pretty damning.

Some salient facts that a keen legal mind and everyone else would have noticed.  First, he did not deny he committed the act.  His only defence was that he was a pawn.  Second, his defence was vigorously pursued by his lawyer.

How is the cop denying killing the black guy? In both cases while they deny certain elements of the case, mainly concerning the mens rea, they do not deny committing the act itself.

I don't see why you would have a horse in this race, unless you were racist.

[DGuller]

My point was that, since every accused deserves a decent representation, saying that is trite - so unless you intend to say it every time someone goes on trial, the question is why you would say it in this specific case. Unless you had some sort of sympathy for the accused - which I would find inexplicable in this case.

Because we have a specific issue up for discussions about this specific case?

[grumbler]

My point was that, since every accused deserves a decent representation, saying that is trite - so unless you intend to say it every time someone goes on trial, the question is why you would say it in this specific case. Unless you had some sort of sympathy for the accused - which I would find inexplicable in this case.

So your point was responding to a strawman that you didn't even articulate?  Great job!

At least you articulated your argument so poorly that no one knew it was so stupid, so it motivated some discussion.  I guess it is better that if you are going to [post such stupid ideas, that you post them so inarticulately that people might confuse them for poorly-worded sense.

[grumbler]

How is the cop denying killing the black guy? In both cases while they deny certain elements of the case, mainly concerning the mens rea, they do not deny committing the act itself.

Before you go around using legal terms like "mens rea' you should probably learn what they mean.  Tsarnaev's defense doesn't deny mens rea or anything 'concerning"t it; it simply argues that, while guilty, Tsarnaev shouldn't be executed because he was so heavily influenced by his brother.

I don't see why you would have a horse in this race, unless you were racist.

What you don't see isn't evidence of anything.  You are demonstrating your poor vision all the time.

[Razgovory]

Our two greatest lawyers, Marty and Grumbler, arguing over law.  The world wonders what pearls of wisdom will be born of these copulating clams.

[crazy canuck]

My point was that, since every accused deserves a decent representation, saying that is trite - so unless you intend to say it every time someone goes on trial, the question is why you would say it in this specific case. Unless you had some sort of sympathy for the accused - which I would find inexplicable in this case.

And the point we were discussing is the ethical conduct of the cop's former lawyer

[derspiess]

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