New Hampshire Legislators Kill Fourth Graders’ Bill & Dreams In Front of Them

Started by jimmy olsen, March 20, 2015, 02:15:26 AM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: mongers on March 20, 2015, 08:08:39 AM
Oh it was for a state raptor, so change my opinion to no, if they've already got a bird.

Yeah. One state bird is enough.
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Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 20, 2015, 11:15:10 AM
The difference between the two is that Burt had a good, if bitter, point;

Really?  Was there some other pressing business of the New Hampshire legislature that was derailed here?  (If Groen's outburst is typical of business as usual there clearly not). 

Was this really the right time and place to make a big stand on this critical point of principle? Is it possible to have some basic perspective and common sense?   

They are 4 graders, be a freakin mensch and pass their bill; make your big principled crabby sarcastic stand some other time.

EDIT:  Is there any doubt that if some big donor asked Burt to sponsor something equally pointless he would have jumped up and done it?   asshole.
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Caliga

No, I think the kids learned an important lesson here.  Republicans mean BUSINESS. :bowler:
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The Brain

I find the idea that political decisions should be made based on how you don't want to hurt some children's feelings a bit... odd.
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Habbaku

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 20, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
They are 4 graders, be a freakin mensch and pass their bill; make your big principled crabby sarcastic stand some other time.

What's the age cut-off for not taking a crabby, sarcastic stance?  High-schoolers?
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Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 20, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 20, 2015, 11:15:10 AM
The difference between the two is that Burt had a good, if bitter, point;

Really?  Was there some other pressing business of the New Hampshire legislature that was derailed here?  (If Groen's outburst is typical of business as usual there clearly not). 

Was this really the right time and place to make a big stand on this critical point of principle? Is it possible to have some basic perspective and common sense?   

They are 4 graders, be a freakin mensch and pass their bill; make your big principled crabby sarcastic stand some other time.

EDIT:  Is there any doubt that if some big donor asked Burt to sponsor something equally pointless he would have jumped up and done it?   asshole.

Ooh, they are making JR mad!  He's getting all Jewish!
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dps

Quote from: The Brain on March 20, 2015, 02:22:01 PM
I find the idea that political decisions should be made based on how you don't want to hurt some children's feelings a bit... odd.

Yeah.

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mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on March 20, 2015, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 20, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 20, 2015, 11:15:10 AM
The difference between the two is that Burt had a good, if bitter, point;

Really?  Was there some other pressing business of the New Hampshire legislature that was derailed here?  (If Groen's outburst is typical of business as usual there clearly not). 

Was this really the right time and place to make a big stand on this critical point of principle? Is it possible to have some basic perspective and common sense?   

They are 4 graders, be a freakin mensch and pass their bill; make your big principled crabby sarcastic stand some other time.

EDIT:  Is there any doubt that if some big donor asked Burt to sponsor something equally pointless he would have jumped up and done it?   asshole.

Ooh, they are making JR mad!  He's getting all Jewish!

Not wishing to comment on this post specifically, but we're certainly seeing a more combative JR in 2015.  :cool:
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 20, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
Was this really the right time and place to make a big stand on this critical point of principle? Is it possible to have some basic perspective and common sense?   

Would a better time have been the vote on the official state amphibian, the official state bread, or the official state crayon color?

Malthus

I'm gonna go with "assholes". The notion is that the valuable time of the state legislature was being wasted to entertain a class of grade 4 students - the logic being that the legislature's time was otherwise valuable.  :lol:
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mongers

What about official state dinosaurs, that way legislators could upset pre-schools through to 10 year olds.  :D
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Malthus

Quote from: mongers on March 20, 2015, 05:54:23 PM
What about official state dinosaurs, that way legislators could upset pre-schools through to 10 year olds.  :D

Don't laugh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_dinosaurs

They could pick a really sucky one - "Our State Dinosaur is ... Microceratops".  :D

Edit: New Jersey did just that!  :lol: They chose Hadrosaurus foulkii ...
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Malthus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 20, 2015, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 20, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
Was this really the right time and place to make a big stand on this critical point of principle? Is it possible to have some basic perspective and common sense?   

Would a better time have been the vote on the official state amphibian, the official state bread, or the official state crayon color?

New Hampshire already has a both a "state fruit" and a "state vegetable" (pumpkin and white potato, respectively).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_foods

The state vegetable was enacted in 2013:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2013/hb0535.html

Moreover, New Hampshire *does* have a state amphibian (the red-spotted newt).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_amphibians

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius