[board] The Battlestar Galactica Languish Project

[garbon]

I played ...

Are you supposed to say that? But yeah, I know that you didn't do it (humans have little reason to sabotage skill checks) and I couldn't possible have sabotaged it as I have only had access to yellow and green cards thus far.

[Berkut]

I don't think there is any rule about talking about what WAS played - after all, I could just lie about it.

Right?

Anyway, I need to choose a destination, and I would really like to know if I can discuss that with everyone.

[garbon]

I don't think there is any rule about talking about what WAS played - after all, I could just lie about it.

Right?

You could be lying but the rules do state that you can't claim ownership of cards (just like how you can't specify what cards you will play - which could also be a lie). Delete that sentence maybe?

[garbon]

I bet the rule exists because in person, you could easily track the cards and be able to tell if a person was lying or not about what he played. A little different online as there's nothing to be tracked.

[grumbler]

I agree with this logic, but the cards that would have well and truly sabotaged the last crisis were the tactics cards, and Baltar has not had any chance of getting them yet that I know of.  He has collected purple cards in his turn.  There was a -2 engineering in this last check, and a -4 in the previous one, but that could be chance.

If we incorrectly brig Baltar, we lose our only consistent source of blue cards (I get one, and I don't think anyone else gets any).  OTOH, I like the idea of brigging Baltar on general principals.  I am torn.

Thoughts, people?

[grumbler]

More thoughts:

(1) I think it highly unlikely that the Admiral is a Cylon.  If the President is a Cylon, she might or might not have cleared him, but if she isn't she never would have cleared him if he WAS a Cylon.
(2) I am not a Cylon (at least yet!  ) so that gives me two people I have some confidence in.
(3) I think it somewhat unlikely the President is a Cylon.  There are good arguments for a Cylon wanting to brig the Admiral unjustly.  I certainly would.
(4) Apolllo used a tactic he didn't need to use to stop the basestar AND the raider.  While his shots were flukily lucky, I rate him an unlikely Cylon.
(5) Given that this strongly indicates that the Cylon is Tigh or Baltar, and that it is a 2/3 chance that Baltar is the Cylon of the two, I am persuaded that we should brig Baltar.

Note that I am relying not at all on what Baltar has said to date, though I understand why the President found such comments suspicious.  Baltar would say bogus stuff even were he human - that is just the way Baltar is.

Anyone find fault with this reasoning?

[garbon]

I agree with this logic, but the cards that would have well and truly sabotaged the last crisis were the tactics cards, and Baltar has not had any chance of getting them yet that I know of.  He has collected purple cards in his turn. 

Unless I'm mistaken, tactics cards are purple, no?

[grumbler]

Unless I'm mistaken, tactics cards are purple, no?

Sorry, read "engineering" for purple in that first paragraph.

[Berkut]

Correct, tactics cards are purple.

This makes me 100% certain the saboteru was Baltar, since I know it was not me.

Someone needs to Brig him, and I cannot do it.

[garbon]

Someone needs to Brig him, and I cannot do it.

Changing my post.

Because we have Tigh, we only need to pass a skill check of 4.

I'd suggest Tigh brigs him so that we can limit the damage that Balthar can do.

[grumbler]

Changing my post.

Because we have Tigh, we only need to pass a skill check of 4.

I'd suggest Tigh brigs him so that we can limit the damage that Balthar can do.

It's purple and green, so I can be of very limited assistance (unless nobody can do anything, in which case I can do a lot at great cost to the future).

Still, I would say that the Admiral should order Tigh to brig Baltar, and if he disobeys we know a lot.

[garbon]

I've relevant cards although doing so will make me rather useless the rest of this round.

And agreed, if Tigh, who was looking for a suggestion on what to do, declines we've gained more knowledge.

[Berkut]

Tigh would never dis-obey me, so that is not a concern.

Tigh, please escort Baltar to the brig.

I can certainly help on the Brig task.

[JacobL]

I can provide an extremely weak support for a brigging if needed but it would be best to plan to succeed at it without my support.

[Tamas]

Berkut I am pretty certain you can NOT discuss the destination cards. Just make your call.