The US Territories

[LaCroix]

The Senate.  The EC.  Slavery.  Civil War.  Civil rights.  Gerrymandering.  Non-uniformity of laws in general, including minimum wage laws.  Obamacare.

Some states decriminalized pot, I guess.  That was nice.

slavery ensured the survival of the republic. the civil war matured the union. i think the civil rights movement worked better because the states were allowed to choose before the feds acted. the northern states provided great political support. is gerrymandering actually a problem or is it blown out of proportion? non-uniformity of laws (in some way) is inevitable in a free nation. people have different values. obamacare?

[Ideologue]

Don't understand how slavery preserved the Republic.  Civil War wouldn't have been necessary in a country run directly from DC--whereupon would resistance have nucleated?  Civil rights would've been made available far earlier due to left presidencies/legislatures.  Gerrymandering is a problem in South Carolina at least.  You should see my district.  It's idiotic.  Non-uniformity of laws is not inevitable in a free nation, it's inevitable in a poorly governed federalist nation.  People should all have the same values, and if they don't, it should be enforced upon them anyway by the center; in America, most often the center has been correct.  Some states have been recalcitrant against Obamacare.

[lustindarkness]

The United States shouldn't have states in the first place.  It's been a complete fucking disaster.

Leave, go way. Do it, do it now.

No.

Stop whining then, and do your part.

[Admiral Yi]

You're being a little goofy Ide.

[lustindarkness]

You know the worst thing about my beautiful island of Puerto Rico? My fellow Ricans! Fuckers have slowly destroyed their economy, along with everything else. I'm just pissed at the corrupt politicians and weak population that allows to continue to get screwed by said corruption.

Sorry to hear that. Is that why they voted to change status? Thinking maybe it might help this problem?

Too complicated a situation to say. I don't know, but it sure is a big part of it I believe.

[DGuller]

To avoid upsetting political balance, maybe we should split each of the Dakotas into eastern and western halves, to counterbalance Puerto Rico and DC becoming states.  Such deals worked before Civil War.

[Admiral Yi]

My understanding is PR's biggest problem is they are drowning in debt.  Statehood or independence don't make that problem go away.

[Valmy]

To avoid upsetting political balance, maybe we should split each of the Dakotas into eastern and western halves, to counterbalance Puerto Rico and DC becoming states.  Such deals worked before Civil War.

So long as they promise no more Democratic States north of the southern border of Missouri.

[LaCroix]

political support from the southern colonies to join the revolution/nation. had the founding fathers promised to end slavery, the southern states would (naturally) have refused. had they beat down britain and the new government violated the promise and ended slavery, internal dissent would have either crippled the country or started it off on a bad note. either way, might have resulted in worse consequences down the road. same with your civil war & nucleating resistance comment. we'd have a worse US.

civil rights initially failed on the federal level. removing the state system wouldn't change people from conservative to liberal. you'd still have local governments discriminating. it's hard to say exactly what would have changed with this one, imo.

gerrymandering is a "problem" everywhere, but i don't know how much of a problem it actually is.

new york city will have different local ordinances than fargo, north dakota. it's inevitable. even the federal court circuits are fairly non-uniform, and one of the reasons they exist was to ensure a uniform court system.

no

the US just passed obamacare. it takes time for sweeping changes to settle in.

[lustindarkness]

My understanding is PR's biggest problem is they are drowning in debt.  Statehood or independence don't make that problem go away.

But the coffee is real good and the women beautiful, those are a big plus.

[LaCroix]

To avoid upsetting political balance, maybe we should split each of the Dakotas into eastern and western halves, to counterbalance Puerto Rico and DC becoming states.  Such deals worked before Civil War.

but then oil money would benefit only oil country and not the unaffected rich eastern side of the state. terrible idea.

[Admiral Yi]

But the coffee is real good and the women beautiful, those are a big plus.

No offense bro, but generally a little more junk in the trunk than I'm happy with.

[Valmy]

DGuller may not have been basing his scheme on any actual knowledge of North and South Dakota.

[Caliga]

No offense bro, but generally a little more junk in the trunk than I'm happy with.

[Caliga]

DGuller may not have been basing his scheme on any actual knowledge of North and South Dakota.

I like the idea of a Northeast Dakota though.