Self-proclaimed atheist charged in slayings of North Carolina Muslim students

Started by garbon, February 11, 2015, 09:29:30 PM

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Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: Martinus on February 12, 2015, 03:22:47 AM
His wife said it was motivated by religion but by parking disputes.

He is heterosexual too then. But not self-proclaimed, no sir, we had to deduce that from his marriage.............what an underhand bastard.

I hope that the heterosexual and atheist communities come forth and denounce this man.

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grumbler

That he was an atheist seems moot; that he was anti-religious seems quite germane.  Newspapers miss the distinction; film at 11.
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Quote from: Razgovory on February 12, 2015, 04:30:56 AM
I'm trying to see what your point is, but I can't quite grasp it.

RH is mocking those who demand that moderate Moslems have to speak up and denounce every act of terror by radical Moslems.

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Quote from: Benedict Arnold on February 12, 2015, 03:47:26 AM
Is there an alternative way of being an Atheist other than it being self-proclaimed? :huh:
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Quote from: Benedict Arnold on February 12, 2015, 03:47:26 AM
Is there an alternative way of being an Atheist other than it being self-proclaimed? :huh:

Being proclaimed an atheist by God would sort of spoil the notion.  :(
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Quote from: Malthus on February 12, 2015, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on February 12, 2015, 03:47:26 AM
Is there an alternative way of being an Atheist other than it being self-proclaimed? :huh:

Being proclaimed an atheist by God would sort of spoil the notion.  :(

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CountDeMoney

I'm surprised nobody is tackling this from the Chapel Hill angle, what with the recent death of Dean Smith.  I wonder if the media can get Jordan to comment.

garbon

Quote from: grumbler on February 12, 2015, 07:23:16 AM
That he was an atheist seems moot; that he was anti-religious seems quite germane.  Newspapers miss the distinction; film at 11.

Is it a distinction with meaningful difference? I can't speak for you but pretty much every time that I encounter someone who is anti-religious, they are an atheist.
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garbon

On a different note, I like the wife noting that he is not hateful, it was a parking dispute. Because clearly it isn't hatefulness that drives you to murder 3 people over a parking spot.
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 09:51:14 AM
On a different note, I like the wife noting that he is not hateful, it was a parking dispute. Because clearly it isn't hatefulness that drives you to murder 3 people over a parking spot.

Indeed.  Though probably the legal result of having hate crime legislation where shooting people in the head is less bad if done over a parking spot.  Though with a crime this severe I cannot imagine it matters much either way.
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Quote from: garbon on February 12, 2015, 09:51:14 AM
On a different note, I like the wife noting that he is not hateful, it was a parking dispute. Because clearly it isn't hatefulness that drives you to murder 3 people over a parking spot.

Well, apparently you are better off being a cold blooded murderer rather than committing a hate crime.

Richard Hakluyt

The hate crime legislation makes more sense with regard to lesser offences, eg screaming "f**** Muslims!" at people during a dispute over a parking space, I think most would agree this is worse than people simply squabbling with raised voices. Such a scenario is also far more common than a triple murder as well of course. In the case of this particular crime, the triple murder is heinous enough in itself, unless he is a member of an organised anti-religious hate group I can't get excited about the killer's atheism.