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Started by Siege, February 05, 2015, 11:50:14 AM

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Which political ideas do you sympathyse with?

Red Communist Party - Command economy
7 (19.4%)
Pink Socialist - Democrat Left (Obama, Kerry, Carter) - Welfare State
14 (38.9%)
Democrat Center (Clintons, LBJ) - Big Goverment
5 (13.9%)
Republican establishment- Big Goverment  (Bushes, Romney, McCain)
2 (5.6%)
Constitutional Conservative - Tea Party - small goverment (Reagan, Cruz, Goldwater)
8 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 35

Martinus


Ed Anger

Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Goldwater would punch Siege in the nuts.

Sure.
He and what army.

He'd have your CO make you stand there and take a punch to the nuts.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Siege

Quote from: Martinus on February 05, 2015, 03:42:11 PM
There is no Hitler. :(


Martinus: Do not try and bend the Hitler. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Martinus: There is no Hitler.

Neo: There is no Hitler?

Martinus: Then you'll see, that it is not the Hitler that bends, it is only yourself.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Razgovory

Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Goldwater would punch Siege in the nuts.

Sure.
He and what army.

As a Major General, I suspect a substantial one.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Siege

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Goldwater would punch Siege in the nuts.

Sure.
He and what army.

He'd have your CO make you stand there and take a punch to the nuts.

That would be hazing, and therefore an unlawful order.
I am only required to obey lawful orders.
My CO orders me to squash muslim babies, it is my duty to disobey such an order.
The old "I was just following orders" is not defense in a court martial.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Ed Anger

Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Goldwater would punch Siege in the nuts.

Sure.
He and what army.

He'd have your CO make you stand there and take a punch to the nuts.

That would be hazing, and therefore an unlawful order.
I am only required to obey lawful orders.
My CO orders me to squash muslim babies, it is my duty to disobey such an order.
The old "I was just following orders" is not defense in a court martial.

You'd be making baby wine in a flash.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on February 05, 2015, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2015, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Goldwater would punch Siege in the nuts.

Sure.
He and what army.

As a Major General, I suspect a substantial one.

Air Force :contract:

I think he was made a Major general before the Air Force began.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Siege

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Goldwater would punch Siege in the nuts.

Sure.
He and what army.

He'd have your CO make you stand there and take a punch to the nuts.

That would be hazing, and therefore an unlawful order.
I am only required to obey lawful orders.
My CO orders me to squash muslim babies, it is my duty to disobey such an order.
The old "I was just following orders" is not defense in a court martial.

You'd be making baby wine in a flash.

I won't.
It is illegal and immoral, against the army values.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


dps

Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2015, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on February 05, 2015, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2015, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Goldwater would punch Siege in the nuts.

Sure.
He and what army.

As a Major General, I suspect a substantial one.

Air Force :contract:

I think he was made a Major general before the Air Force began.

He was an officer in the AF when it was still part of the Army, but I don't think he made general until it became a separate service.  Not sure about that though.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Tonitrus

Quote from: Siege on February 05, 2015, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 05, 2015, 03:42:11 PM
There is no Hitler. :(


Martinus: Do not try and bend the Hitler. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Martinus: There is no Hitler.

Neo: There is no Hitler?

Martinus: Then you'll see, that it is not the Hitler that bends, it is only yourself.

Bend it Like Hitler sounds like a terrible parody film.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2015, 02:04:41 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 05, 2015, 01:57:05 PM
Moi.
Under Obama the headcount in the Federal government has gone down and non-entitlement spending declined.
Are you including DoD?

Yes
Total federal outlays in nominal terms went from $3.517 trillion for 2009 to $3.506 trillion for 2014 (they are projected to increase in 2015).  On-budget only there is a decline from 3.0 trillion to 2.8 trillion.  In % of GDP terms, the decrease is from 24% to just over 20%.  Even if you go back pre-recession to 2007 or 2008 to get a "normal" baseline there is virtually no change in federal spending/GDP.

Quotehome insulation, mortgage refinance, buying GM and Chrysler for the UAW, Race to the Top, Common Core, Obamaphones(!), filling the donut hole) and he has proposed free juco for everyone and more free money for Schumer families with children.

This is a mix of small potatoes stuff (home insulation, race to the top, "Obamaphones" (actually a Bush era program!)) and one shot responses to the financial crisis (GM and mortgage refi).  Common Core isn't "big government" and is not in fact in federal initiative.  As a case for being a big government guy a la LBJ it isn't that compelling.

The last SOTU was more in that mold, but the context is a new Congress he knows will reject the spending proposals.  It is just political fodder for Hillary's fund raising effort.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

CountDeMoney

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 05, 2015, 07:15:14 PM
"Obamaphones" (actually a Bush era program!))

And doesn't use a single tax dollar anyway.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 05, 2015, 07:18:45 PM
And doesn't use a single tax dollar anyway.

It uses nothing but tax dollars.  :huh: