"Dear Wealthy Fucks: Fuck you. Yours in Christ, the Black Guy"

Started by CountDeMoney, January 18, 2015, 09:54:28 PM

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Josephus

Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 18, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
There is no possible answer that would satisfy you.

True. I can't think of answer to why anyone should be excited about our President saying (in the words of the Seedster) fuck you to wealthy people.

I would be excited if that were the case. But alas he just wants to tax their capital gains not string them by their hairy cocks.  :(
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garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2015, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2015, 10:21:21 PM
Kind of like this thread, no?

You're more than welcome to discuss your pube shaving habits if you like instead.

No, I think I'll go out soon to party and await better Languish threads.
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garbon

Quote from: Josephus on January 18, 2015, 10:25:41 PM
I would be excited if that were the case. But alas he just wants to tax their capital gains not string them by their hairy cocks.  :(

Yeah, no wins unless you are tearing somebody down, huh? :console:
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Berkut

Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 18, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
There is no possible answer that would satisfy you.

True. I can't think of answer to why anyone should be excited about our President saying (in the words of the Seedster) fuck you to wealthy people.

Since saying "fuck you to wealthy people" is defined as raising taxes on the ultra-rich, I am glad we can agree that there is no answer that would satisfy someone as ideologically inflexible as you are when they ask "Why is it a good idea to raise taxes on the ultra-wealthy?"
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garbon

Quote from: Berkut on January 18, 2015, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 18, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
There is no possible answer that would satisfy you.

True. I can't think of answer to why anyone should be excited about our President saying (in the words of the Seedster) fuck you to wealthy people.

Since saying "fuck you to wealthy people" is defined as raising taxes on the ultra-rich, I am glad we can agree that there is no answer that would satisfy someone as ideologically inflexible as you are when they ask "Why is it a good idea to raise taxes on the ultra-wealthy?"

No, I think it can be okay to raise taxes on people of any background - including the "ultra"-wealthy. Not sure why taxes raises are automatically a great thing though.

In fact, one could ask (thought not someone as ideologically inflexible as myself) why it is that someone would think raising taxes is a "fuck you."
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
why it is that someone would think raising taxes is a "fuck you."

Because they have gotten away with playing their little tax games long enough.  So yeah, it's a "fuck you".  So they're just going to have to play by a few more rules now, like the rest of us are required to.

Neil

What does it matter?  Won't the Republicans just pass massive tax cuts in an effort to defund the government?
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Josephus on January 18, 2015, 10:25:41 PM
I would be excited if that were the case. But alas he just wants to tax their capital gains not string them by their hairy cocks.  :(

Why would you be happy if the president said fuck you to wealthy people?

garbon

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 18, 2015, 10:44:45 PM
Quote from: Josephus on January 18, 2015, 10:25:41 PM
I would be excited if that were the case. But alas he just wants to tax their capital gains not string them by their hairy cocks.  :(

Why would you be happy if the president said fuck you to wealthy people?

God, Yi, you are so ideologically inflexible.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jacob

Obama can propose all he wants, but he needs Congress to implement it, no? And Congress needs him to sign whatever they pass, right?

So this is staking out a starting position for bargaining, much further away from the Republican one back when he tried being the "responsible adult" and they shut down the government.

Or did I miss something?

Berkut

Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 18, 2015, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 18, 2015, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 18, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
There is no possible answer that would satisfy you.

True. I can't think of answer to why anyone should be excited about our President saying (in the words of the Seedster) fuck you to wealthy people.

Since saying "fuck you to wealthy people" is defined as raising taxes on the ultra-rich, I am glad we can agree that there is no answer that would satisfy someone as ideologically inflexible as you are when they ask "Why is it a good idea to raise taxes on the ultra-wealthy?"

No, I think it can be okay to raise taxes on people of any background - including the "ultra"-wealthy.

Then your question makes no sense.

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Not sure why taxes raises are automatically a great thing though.

Not sure why you would think anyone claimed they were automatically a great thing - but that isn't what you said. You made it clear that raising them are automatically a bad thing.

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In fact, one could ask (thought not someone as ideologically inflexible as myself) why it is that someone would think raising taxes is a "fuck you."

If one were to ask that, then their question makes even less sense.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Jacob on January 18, 2015, 10:49:20 PM
Obama can propose all he wants, but he needs Congress to implement it, no? And Congress needs him to sign whatever they pass, right?

So this is staking out a starting position for bargaining, much further away from the Republican one back when he tried being the "responsible adult" and they shut down the government.

Or did I miss something?

I think it's more accurate to characterize it as running it up the flagpole to see who salutes and/or red meat for the partisan base as opposed to an opening bargaining position.  He does this all the time--tosses out an idea in the context of nothing.

garbon

Quote from: Berkut on January 18, 2015, 10:51:57 PM
Not sure why you would think anyone claimed they were automatically a great thing - but that isn't what you said. You made it clear that raising them are automatically a bad thing.

I recall asking why it was a positive. I suppose I could have assumed Seedy meant it as a negative but that would have been dishonest, no?

Quote from: Berkut on January 18, 2015, 10:51:57 PM
If one were to ask that, then their question makes even less sense.

:hmm:
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Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on January 18, 2015, 10:49:20 PM
Obama can propose all he wants, but he needs Congress to implement it, no? And Congress needs him to sign whatever they pass, right?

So this is staking out a starting position for bargaining, much further away from the Republican one back when he tried being the "responsible adult" and they shut down the government.

Or did I miss something?

There will be no bargain.  You can't bargain with people who won't even recognized that the man is the legal president or believe that taxes on the richest Americans is a form of racism.
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