Shots fired on Biden's House

[DGuller]

Good thing Joe wasn't home.  He'd have blasted a few shells through the door.

It would've been the door on the other side of the house, and not even an exterior door, but it's the thought that counts.

[CountDeMoney]

You're goddamned right he would.

[Siege]

I was thinking the other day that it's surprising no one's ever tried to assassinate Supreme Court justices (afaik?).

Because americans are law abiding people and political assasination, all assasinations really, are against conservative values. Shooters are always lefty crazies that do not abide the law or appreciate the social contract, like that guy that killed JFK, or the one that shot Reagan, or the one that tried to kill that woman from Arizona, Grifford?

[Jacob]

Because americans are law abiding people and political assasination, all assasinations really, are against conservative values. Shooters are always lefty crazies that do not abide the law or appreciate the social contract, like that guy that killed JFK, or the one that shot Reagan, or the one that tried to kill that woman from Arizona, Grifford?

You'd characterize Yigal Amir as a lefty crazy?

[Eddie Teach]

Shooters are always lefty crazies that do not abide the law or appreciate the social contract, like that guy that killed JFK, or the one that shot Reagan, or the one that tried to kill that woman from Arizona, Grifford?

James Earl Ray?

[derspiess]

James Earl Ray Jones.

[mongers]

Because americans are law abiding people and political assasination, all assasinations really, are against conservative values. Shooters are always lefty crazies that do not abide the law or appreciate the social contract, like that guy that killed JFK, or the one that shot Reagan, or the one that tried to kill that woman from Arizona, Grifford?

You'd characterize Yigal Amir as a lefty crazy?

Seigy is just covering his tracks in advance; no one will suspect him as he posted on an internet forum that right-ringers don't do political assassinations.

[Siege]

Because americans are law abiding people and political assasination, all assasinations really, are against conservative values. Shooters are always lefty crazies that do not abide the law or appreciate the social contract, like that guy that killed JFK, or the one that shot Reagan, or the one that tried to kill that woman from Arizona, Grifford?

You'd characterize Yigal Amir as a lefty crazy?

Well, the religious parties are definitively not right wing conservatives, since they depend on welfare and all the ask to join a governing coalition is how much more welfare they can get for their constituence.

The idea of the religious parties being right wing is a american and european idea, not israeli.

[Razgovory]

That makes sense, and you it works well with your claim to be a socialist but only in Israel.

Now here's a good conservative assassin.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_De_La_Beckwith  Was a member of the White Citizens Council which later changed it's name to the Conservative Citizens Council.

[Martinus]

Because americans are law abiding people and political assasination, all assasinations really, are against conservative values. Shooters are always lefty crazies that do not abide the law or appreciate the social contract, like that guy that killed JFK, or the one that shot Reagan, or the one that tried to kill that woman from Arizona, Grifford?

You'd characterize Yigal Amir as a lefty crazy?

Well, the religious parties are definitively not right wing conservatives, since they depend on welfare and all the ask to join a governing coalition is how much more welfare they can get for their constituence.

The idea of the religious parties being right wing is a american and european idea, not israeli.

I think it's an American idea more than European. In Europe you either do not have religious parties (this is mostly true for Western Europe) or if you have them, like in Poland, they are quite leftist on economy/welfare issues. An American style mix of religious conservatism and anti-welfare is very rare in Europe. I think it's just historically in Europe at least socially conservative parties are called right wing, irrespective of their platform on economy, while secular communists/socialists are called left wing (even if some of them, especially communists can have pretty authoritarian/anti-democratic ideas).

[Admiral Yi]

Eh, Christian Democrats.

[Ideologue]

I was thinking the other day that it's surprising no one's ever tried to assassinate Supreme Court justices (afaik?).

Because americans are law abiding people and political assasination, all assasinations really, are against conservative values. Shooters are always lefty crazies that do not abide the law or appreciate the social contract, like that guy that killed JFK, or the one that shot Reagan, or the one that tried to kill that woman from Arizona, Grifford?

8/10, nice try.

[Martinus]

Eh, Christian Democrats.

CDU/CSU is fairly left wing on economic issues, especially if you compare it with American right wing parties. They are staunchly pro-welfare state.

[Sheilbh]

Yeah but in Euro countries with a Christian Democrat tradition they are, historically at least, the party of the right.

[Norgy]

Eh, Christian Democrats.

A fairly extensive study would probably say the Christian Democratic parties of Europe are centre-right big tent parties, and mostly centrist. Same with the social democratic parties being far more centrist than leftist except for rethoric. The Callaghan cabinet, for instance, that Thatcher called hard left was probably the most centrist Labour party government outside of Spain's Gonzales cabinets ever.

I wouldn't say Merkel has got a right-wing cabinet, for instance. Sarkozy was somewhat right-wing. But not much. Compared to the GOP, most European parties if you exclude Jobbik, Fidesz, Golden Dawn or whatever the separatists in Italy call themselves nowadays are centrist or leftist. I'd rate even Sweden's Swedofucktards as fairly centrist when it comes down to actual policy and not just ruffling feathers.
Of course, there are far left parties too. Like Syriza in Greece. There's a strong degree of statism in almost every European party. What you also need to consider is that the past 10-15 years have had an impact on European politics where "left" and "right" seem less and less meaningful as labels. The post-war era of goodwill to all men got lost some time during the late 80s. Class-based voting is over. In fact, in many instances with so low voter turnout during elections, it seems voting as such is over.