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Started by Syt, March 16, 2009, 01:52:42 AM

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Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 09:50:35 AM
For some reason I have no interest whatsoever in Australian history, but I've read up on the history of New Zealand a bit. :hmm:

:hmm: indeed.

I can't say I'm fascinated by it but Masterchef Australia has sparked my interest into the country.
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Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 09:50:35 AM
For some reason I have no interest whatsoever in Australian history, but I've read up on the history of New Zealand a bit. :hmm:

I dunno - I read the bio of Lady Franklin last year (widow of Sir John Franklin, the famously lost arctic explorer).  I had no idea John Franklin was the one-time governor of Van Diemen's Land (now Tasmania) which was a major penal colony, and that period was extensively covered in the book.  So anyways, like you Australian history was something I knew almost nothing about, but that brief exposure showed me it was pretty interesting.
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Syt

Read "Kelly's Country" by A. Bertram Chandler instead.

Ned Kelly becomes, through a fluke, an independence fighter and leads the revolutionary war against Britain. Australia becomes an Australian-Irish republic with hereditary presidents/dictators and a major (nuclear, IIRC) power in the Pacific, allied to the U.S.. Eventually, the corrupt dictatorship crumbles, though, and they get occupied by allied nations who aim to install a proper democracy.
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Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 09:50:35 AM
For some reason I have no interest whatsoever in Australian history, but I've read up on the history of New Zealand a bit. :hmm:
New Zealand should be part of Australia, it's more pointless than most small countries.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
That Improbable bit seems like an odd subhead.

Not sure why.  The formation of Australia was never a forgone conclusion.  The more likely outcome was each State being independant.  The story of the difference in governance of each State and how they eventually formed one nation is a good story.

Granted it lacks the kind of bloodshed that runs through your history.  But that simply means no ACW (Aussie Civil War) highjacks. :P

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New Zealand serves the purpose of maintaining a small pocket of racially pure Englishman boys and girls.

garbon

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 27, 2013, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
That Improbable bit seems like an odd subhead.

Not sure why.  The formation of Australia was never a forgone conclusion.  The more likely outcome was each State being independant.  The story of the difference in governance of each State and how they eventually formed one nation is a good story.

Granted it lacks the kind of bloodshed that runs through your history.  But that simply means no ACW (Aussie Civil War) highjacks. :P

Oh gotcha with the bit I bolded. The improbable seemed odd to me as I was like well some sort of nation would have eventually become independent there. Hadn't been thinking about multiples or not. :)
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Quote from: crazy canuck on February 27, 2013, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
That Improbable bit seems like an odd subhead.

Not sure why.  The formation of Australia was never a forgone conclusion.  The more likely outcome was each State being independant.  The story of the difference in governance of each State and how they eventually formed one nation is a good story.

Granted it lacks the kind of bloodshed that runs through your history.  But that simply means no ACW (Aussie Civil War) highjacks. :P

Well hey there was the Rum Rebellion - Bligh's *other* mutiny.  :D

I mean, that guy has all the luck - most famous single naval mutiny in history under his command - then, he becomes the only guy in history to have an entire continent mutiny against him.  :lol:
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 27, 2013, 10:51:18 AM
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 09:50:35 AM
For some reason I have no interest whatsoever in Australian history, but I've read up on the history of New Zealand a bit. :hmm:
New Zealand should be part of Australia, it's more pointless than most small countries.

What a thoroughly stupid thing to say.
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Quote from: Malthus on February 27, 2013, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 27, 2013, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
That Improbable bit seems like an odd subhead.

Not sure why.  The formation of Australia was never a forgone conclusion.  The more likely outcome was each State being independant.  The story of the difference in governance of each State and how they eventually formed one nation is a good story.

Granted it lacks the kind of bloodshed that runs through your history.  But that simply means no ACW (Aussie Civil War) highjacks. :P

Well hey there was the Rum Rebellion - Bligh's *other* mutiny.  :D

I mean, that guy has all the luck - most famous single naval mutiny in history under his command - then, he becomes the only guy in history to have an entire continent mutiny against him.  :lol:
Bligh was hands down the biggest douche in a nation and profession filled with big douches.
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Quote from: mongers on February 27, 2013, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 27, 2013, 10:51:18 AM
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 09:50:35 AM
For some reason I have no interest whatsoever in Australian history, but I've read up on the history of New Zealand a bit. :hmm:
New Zealand should be part of Australia, it's more pointless than most small countries.

What a thoroughly stupid thing to say.

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Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 27, 2013, 10:51:18 AM
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 09:50:35 AM
For some reason I have no interest whatsoever in Australian history, but I've read up on the history of New Zealand a bit. :hmm:
New Zealand should be part of Australia, it's more pointless than most small countries.
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For some reason Australia's history has produced an disproportionate number of very good novels - English Passengers, Secret River, Oscar & Lucinda amongst others.

Recent reads:

Hyperion by Dan Simmonds, well-written intellligent space opera. 9/10
Little Women - easy read, not really my cup of tea but worth reading because of its cultural impact I guess 7/10

Currently reading Devil All the Time by Donald Ray Pollock. Quite a contrast with Little Women. In amongst the trailer trash of mid 20th century Ohio. Brilliant prose, beautifully paced, disturbing in places. Looking like a very rare 10/10.

Sheilbh

Just started Hyperion. Never really read much sci fi so it should be interesting.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 27, 2013, 01:51:49 PM
New Zealand serves the purpose of maintaining a small pocket of racially pure Englishman boys and girls.
What the hell kind of bullshit is this?
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
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