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Can anyone suggest a good book on Alexander the Great?

I've always enjoyed the various works by A.B. Bosworth and N.G.L. Hammond.
Maybe not entry level stuff, though.
Thanks for the rec. I'll take a look.

I read one by Robin Lane Fox a few years ago. I remember it being good but not outstanding. It's quite scholarly and he does question sources etc.

Ernst Badian didn't think much of his book.
His review has become a classic in obscure circles:

Quote"This book, in typically redundant style, proclaims itself 'not a biography' (p. I I): 'Augustine, Cicero and perhaps the emperor Julian are the only figures from antiquity whose biography can be attempted, and Alexander is not among them' (sic: my italics). The author claims to have read I,472 books and articles, most of them useless. He promises to omit reference to 'those which attack each other or rely . .. on what we do not know, or else mistake the little we do' (500). One expects a work singularly free from polemic. In fact, massive parts of the commentaries (there are no notes, only running commentaries in small type) are devoted to sneers at Fox's predecessors, from the first page (503: 'Hamilton . . . disbelieves this on no grounds except a wish to discredit the story') to almost the last (550: 'Samuel ... adduces a Babylonian parallel which is irrelevant and anyway false'). What is normally lacking is actual argument: the ipse dixit suffices. Thus Tarn is said to be 'persistently mistaken both in method and evidence' (sic: we have seen that English is not Fox's forte) in nearly all his vol. 2, which 'has been ignored throughout the writing of this book'. In fact, Tarn, inevitably, is basic to many of Fox's interpretations. Indeed, his characteristic mannerism is to copy out his predecessors and cite them in obloquy. Thus (one instance among scores) C. B. Welles is frequently followed without acknowledg-ment (218: the route from Siwah; 59: Alexander's contribution to history), but mentioned only when his note on a statement in Diodorus is 'another of his blunders'.

Enough on ethics and style. Let us look at the positive content. The blurb promises a portrait of Alexander against the background of the Eastern world. This is indeed very much needed and has never been properly attempted. No wonder: it requires competence in many languages, massive study of scattered archaeological reports and acquain-tance with vast and often inaccessible areas. Let us test the author's qualifications.

Knowledge of Greek is surely basic. One shudders at ignorance of the meaning of fldpflapo; (103 et al.), at phrases like amphistome taxis (527). But the standard mark of elementary deficiency is unverified use of Loeb translations. Here Fox has been unfortunate: he has placed naive trust in the Loeb Arrian, long known as incompetent to scholars familiar with this field. He has based some of his theories precisely on blunders in that translation. Thus he makes Sardis a 'free city' (128) on the basis of its 'tribute, contributions and offerings' [his quotation marks] and uses this (516) to sneer at one of my suggestions. So far from consulting the Greek text, he has not even consulted a good translation like Hamilton's: he has adapted what he got straight from the ass's mouth ('taxes, contributions, and tribute'-Loeb). Arr. i I7.7 (Nicias is in charge rtv yidpwv xri acrvvxd$ed re Kai dOrpQopa~)is perfectly clear.

The major self-exposure comes in an argument that is also a characteristic instance of his use of sources. Plutarch names an Alexander in charge of a Thracian unit as the man justly killed by the heroic Timoclea. The source is probably Aristobulus; though Jacoby would not be positive. Fox identifies this Alexander with the Lyncestian-prima facie an absurdity, since the point of the story is precisely that the villain was killed. But F. has an answer: Aristobulus was deliberately trying to hide the fact that the Lyncestian Alexander was only arrested much later and executed after the 'conspiracy of Philotas'. The passage is therefore 'of some significance for the source-history of Alexander' (517).

That the death of one of the most eminent men in the kingdom could be thus misreported, even by a kolax like Aristobulus, would take a good deal of proving. What is the proof ? First, that Alexander the Lyncestian was 'known to be present with an army of Thracians at Thebes' (I46). In the commentary (517) the surprising statement is divided and hedged about: 'Alex. of Lyncestis did lead Thracians in 335 (A. 1.25.1) and was certainly thought [sic!] to be present at Thebes (A. 1.7.6).' Now, the latter is misleading to a degree: Arrian reports that, when the Theban leaders who had claimed that Alexander was dead were faced with reports that 'Alexander' was personally leading an army against Thebes, they said that was another Alexander, the Lyncestian. Whether they believed this or not is beside the point: the fact is that the 'presence' of Alexander the Lyncestian with the army was a false tale, due to either confusion or a lie. He is never mentioned as actually with the army. But it is the statement that this Alexander 'did lead Thracians in 335' that shows the author's methods to the full. Arrian i 25 reports that the Lyncestian was made commander in Thrace (at some unspecified time after his namesake's accession) and that, when Calas received a satrapy in 334, he succeeded to Calas' command of the Thessalian cavalry. Unfortunately for F., the Loeb here surpasses itself and twice prints 'Thracian' for 'Thessalian' cavalry as the force under Alexander. And this is the only 'evidence', ancient or modern, that Alexander of Lyncestis ever 'led Thracians' (though in 334 and not in 335).

Let this suffice to illustrate F.'s competence both in language and in historical method. It is difficult to believe him, after this, when he claims to have con-sulted cuneiform Akkadian sources in the original (516: he refers to an edition without translation, and no reference is given to existing translations); all the more so when the translations one can find do not bear out the author's claim as to their contents. Moreover, the source is cited (502) as 'Yale Expedi-tion to Babylon', whereas it is in fact Hilprecht's Babylonian Expedition of the University of Pennsylvania-so that the abbreviation he uses ('B.E.') does not even fit his imaginary title: it must be taken over from whatever uncited immediate source he actually used. The reader is meant to be impressed rather than to check. That technique is frequent, e.g. (at random) when the assertion (505) that 'There are enough campaigns against Illyria [sic-whatever that means] of which nothing is known', advanced to support the fantasy of one not long before Philip's death, is based on three references: one to a speech in Curtius and two to Frontinus (neither referring to Illyria); or when the assertion (35) that the army reached its verdict in trials by spear-clashing and 'It was the king who decided for which verdict they had clashed the louder' is supported (506) by a single reference to Curt. x 7.14, where there is no trace of a trial or of the king. Some of these cases are masterpieces of muddled ignorance over any number of fields, as when we are told (112, with commentary) that Alexander, 'As ruler of the Thessalians', stopped 'Locri in Thessaly' from sending the tribute of noble maidens to Troy. None of the three scholars cited (Momigliano, with the wrong journal; Manni, with a false title; and G. L. Huxley) puts the intermission of the tribute, connected by our source with the end of the 'Phocian War', under Alexander; and none of them, certainly, puts the Locrians in Thessaly.

F.'s knowledge of Iranian geography stands on the same level. Alexander continues 'northwards at furious speed from Hamadan', for eleven days, to reach Rhagae (268 f.); even if he followed the modern road to Qazvin, it would be northeast, and that for a small part of the way: the ancient caravan routes, which he presumably did follow, lead (on the whole) due east-as a glance at a map would show. Though 'Iranian problems . . . have . . . become a primary enticement' for the author (12), he has clearly not thought a map of Iran worth that glance.

Grave ignorance of geography suffices to play havoc with an account of Alexander's campaigns. Fox takes little notice of either ancient or modern discussions of the topography of Gaugamela; his discussion of Issus is vitiated by his ignorance of the fact that there have been major changes in the coast-line since antiquity: his attempts to localise the battle on a particular stretch of coastal plain are useless. His fanciful treatment of Granicus is new only in his failure to refer to the one careful investiga-tion of the topography, Colonel A. Janke's early this century. For Fox these problems are entirely literary: his treatment of Granicus suitably trails off into an indifferent translation of a Cavafy poem.

This purely literary approach, reinforced by a rhetorical and sententious style, inevitably goes with a lack of real interest not only in geography, but in all practical matters, such as organisation, logistics, military and naval affairs, and in social history. A strange and implausible view on the quinquereme is propounded (186) without discussion, and in ignorance of Morrison and Williams, Greek Oared Ships. Greek citizen hoplites are described as 'Greece's landed aristocrats' (72); Thucydides' famous passage on the hoplite line's drift to the right is misunder-stood to mean that the soldier's right was his 'shielded side'; and it is claimed that in consequence generals 'usually placed their strongest units on their respec-tive lefts' (73)-as arrant a mass of nonsense as has ever been written on Greek armies. Two anecdotal accounts are conflated and misunderstood, to pro-duce the claim (72) that Philip forced his army 'to march for thirty miles at a time in high summer with thirty days' supplies on their backs'. Fox clearly lacks not only experience of marching or camping, but interest in it; not to mention ability to use historical sources. (In fact Frontinus iv 1.6 refers to 'thirty days' flour' carried to summer camp; the marches of 300 stadia under arms are in Polyaenus iv 2.IO, specifying that the men carried one day's food.)

One could go on. There is not a chapter without similar gross errors and absurdities. This book astoundingly fails to fulfil its announced purpose. The author has neither the training nor the inclination for serious scholarship. Despite the displays of 'erudition' and the arrogant polemics against scholars whose work he appropriates, this is essentially 'a good yarn', though rather long: an adventure story mid-way between historical journalism and historical fiction.

E. BADIAN Harvard University"


11B4V

Quote from: 11B4V on September 06, 2016, 04:47:49 PM


also these
I N S T I T U T E F O R D E F E N S E A N A L Y S E S
IDA Document D-3530
Project 1946


I N S T I T U T E F O R D E F E N S E A N A L Y S E S
IDA Document D-4121
July 2010
Project 1946: Phase II


Very interesting readings
Lieutenant General Ra'ad Majid Rashid al-Hamdani and Major General (ret) Aladdin Hussein Makki Khamas monographs are fascinating.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Syt

Finished Ambrose's Band of Brothers. Now reading Beevor's World War 2. While I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about the ETO of WW2, I haven't really read any books on it (PTO is a bit of a blind spot for me besides a few well known campaigns).

I was amused that there was a Chinese general or governor named Chang Ching-Chong (or another arrangement of these three syllables).
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

CountDeMoney

So one of the guys at work was telling me how his son--7th grade, IIRC--just finished The Diary of Anne Frank.  It was most definitely not the ending he expected.

crazy canuck

Picked up SPQR and I am enjoying it.  Thanks to whoever first suggested it  :)

Malthus

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 12, 2016, 08:58:11 PM
So one of the guys at work was telling me how his son--7th grade, IIRC--just finished The Diary of Anne Frank.  It was most definitely not the ending he expected.

Send him Sav's version.  ;)
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Syt

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 12, 2016, 08:58:11 PM
So one of the guys at work was telling me how his son--7th grade, IIRC--just finished The Diary of Anne Frank.  It was most definitely not the ending he expected.

Well, it's always a cheap trick to kill the first person narrator and main character in the end.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

11B4V

The Crossing of the Suez by General Saad el Shazly

or

The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger

Which one?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

You know which one.

The Suez ain't going anywhere.  :lol:

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

As I recently emptied out my storage unit and finally brought back the last of my things, I've been opening my boxes of books.  I have missed them so. :wub:

Ed Anger

I bought a Turtledove novel for 3 bucks. Boy, is it stinky!

I'm so ashamed.  :blush:
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

crazy canuck

Quote from: Ed Anger on September 15, 2016, 09:33:50 PM
I bought a Turtledove novel for 3 bucks. Boy, is it stinky!

I'm so ashamed.  :blush:

Check your meds levels stat

The Brain

Listening to Toast on Toast, as read by author actor Steven Toast.
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The Minsky Moment

#3149
In the middle of Esdaile's Napoleon's Wars - definite overlaps of interest with this group.  The twist is that although Napoleon is the protagonist, the focus is on the broader context of international relations.  So to take one example, some interesting discussion of Balkan politics in the context of Napoleon's maneuvering in Dalmatia and Russian diplomatic initiatives, another about how the British fiasco in South America impacted on developments on the continent in 1806-07; etc.  One annoyance is that Esdaile is very anti-Napoleon, often in a very personal and pseudo-psychological way (he is fairly open about his reliance on sources with some bias or reasons to shade their recollections).  Also, while usually frank about British diplomatic and strategic deficiencies, at times British boosterism breaks through, for example in his praising with faint damnation the shelling of Copenhagen.  It's not a huge problem is long as you discount the commentary but it could prove distracting.  Content is interesting though.
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