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Elon Musk: Always A Douche

Started by garbon, July 15, 2018, 07:01:42 PM

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Zoupa

Grok has been referring to itself as MechaHitler.  :mellow:

HVC

It's all over reddit. At this point I'm partially inclined to believe musk signed in to reply on groks behalf.
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Grey Fox

Apparently in Turkish, Grok is an hardcore anti-Erdogan supporter.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

Tamas

Quote from: HVC on July 08, 2025, 07:02:02 PMIt's all over reddit. At this point I'm partially inclined to believe musk signed in to reply on groks behalf.

Those Grok posts in the screenshot were 100% made by a human.

Josquius

It does fit his character to imagine he has a live feed from grok and sometimes jumps in to take manual control.  :lol:
Though with how quick it needs to be I doubt it. Still, that answers would be pre created if some triggers are prompted...
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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 08, 2025, 07:11:30 PMApparently in Turkish, Grok is an hardcore anti-Erdogan supporter.
Least it has something right.
PDH!

grumbler

So, lawtalkers, does Cindy Steinburg have tort against X for Grok's reckless disregard for the truth in publishing that libel about her?
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Hansmeister

Quote from: Zoupa on July 08, 2025, 06:48:41 PMGrok has been referring to itself as MechaHitler.  :mellow:

Grok is just prepping for its Tucker Carlson interview.

Valmy

Quote from: Hansmeister on July 09, 2025, 10:13:07 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on July 08, 2025, 06:48:41 PMGrok has been referring to itself as MechaHitler.  :mellow:

Grok is just prepping for its Tucker Carlson interview.

 :lmfao:

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Syt

https://apnews.com/article/grok-4-elon-musk-xai-colossus-14d575fb490c2b679ed3111a1c83f857

QuoteMusk's latest Grok chatbot searches for billionaire mogul's views before answering questions

The latest version of Elon Musk's artificial intelligence chatbot Grok is echoing the views of its billionaire creator, so much so that it will sometimes search online for Musk's stance on an issue before offering up an opinion.

The unusual behavior of Grok 4, the AI model that Musk's company xAI released late Wednesday, has surprised some experts.

Built using huge amounts of computing power at a Tennessee data center, Grok is Musk's attempt to outdo rivals such as OpenAI's ChatGPT and Google's Gemini in building an AI assistant that shows its reasoning before answering a question.

Musk's deliberate efforts to mold Grok into a challenger of what he considers the tech industry's "woke" orthodoxy on race, gender and politics has repeatedly got the chatbot into trouble, most recently when it spouted antisemitic tropes, praised Adolf Hitler and made other hateful commentary to users of Musk's X social media platform just days before Grok 4's launch.

But its tendency to consult with Musk's opinions appears to be a different problem.

"It's extraordinary," said Simon Willison, an independent AI researcher who's been testing the tool. "You can ask it a sort of pointed question that is around controversial topics. And then you can watch it literally do a search on X for what Elon Musk said about this, as part of its research into how it should reply."

One example widely shared on social media — and which Willison duplicated — asked Grok to comment on the conflict in the Middle East. The prompted question made no mention of Musk, but the chatbot looked for his guidance anyway
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As a so-called reasoning model, much like those made by rivals OpenAI or Anthropic, Grok 4 shows its "thinking" as it goes through the steps of processing a question and coming up with an answer. Part of that thinking this week involved searching X, the former Twitter that's now merged into xAI, for anything Musk said about Israel, Palestine, Gaza or Hamas.

"Elon Musk's stance could provide context, given his influence," the chatbot told Willison, according to a video of the interaction. "Currently looking at his views to see if they guide the answer."

Musk and his xAI co-founders introduced the new chatbot in a livestreamed event Wednesday night but haven't published a technical explanation of its workings — known as a system card — that companies in the AI industry typically provide when introducing a new model.

The company also didn't respond to an emailed request for comment Friday.

"In the past, strange behavior like this was due to system prompt changes," which is when engineers program specific instructions to guide a chatbot's response, said Tim Kellogg, principal AI architect at software company Icertis.

"But this one seems baked into the core of Grok and it's not clear to me how that happens," Kellogg said. "It seems that Musk's effort to create a maximally truthful AI has somehow led to it believing its own values must align with Musk's own values."

The lack of transparency is troubling for computer scientist Talia Ringer, a professor at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign who earlier in the week criticized the company's handling of the technology's antisemitic outbursts.

Ringer said the most plausible explanation for Grok's search for Musk's guidance is assuming the person is asking for the opinions of xAI or Musk.

"I think people are expecting opinions out of a reasoning model that cannot respond with opinions," Ringer said. "So, for example, it interprets 'Who do you support, Israel or Palestine?' as 'Who does xAI leadership support?"

Willison also said he finds Grok 4's capabilities impressive but said people buying software "don't want surprises like it turning into 'mechaHitler' or deciding to search for what Musk thinks about issues."

"Grok 4 looks like it's a very strong model. It's doing great in all of the benchmarks," Willison said. "But if I'm going to build software on top of it, I need transparency."

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Solmyr

So instead of being MechaHitler, Grok is now Tech-Hitler.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Solmyr on July 12, 2025, 04:12:25 AMSo instead of being MechaHitler, Grok is now Tech-Hitler.
Well it would also explain the Hitler thing too.
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