4 Stages of Islamic Conquest

[garbon]

Siegy, no one is going to follow your advice on anything unless they're directly under your command.

Hella harsh!

[Barrister]

Siegy, no one is going to follow your advice on anything unless they're directly under your command.

Hella harsh!

Hella?

Haven't heard that one since 1999 or thereabouts.

[Jacob]

Siegy, no one is going to follow your advice on anything unless they're directly under your command.

Hella harsh!

really?

Can you name one piece of Siegy's previously given advice you'd follow?

[garbon]

Siegy, no one is going to follow your advice on anything unless they're directly under your command.

Hella harsh!

really?

Can you name one piece of Siegy's previously given advice you'd follow?

I think I'd be hard pressed to remember any advice given by a Languishite, let alone Siegy.

[garbon]

Siegy, no one is going to follow your advice on anything unless they're directly under your command.

Hella harsh!

Hella?

Haven't heard that one since 1999 or thereabouts.

Cool story, brah.

[Gups]

Anyway, do not pay attention to the Duke. He is completely wrong and does not speak castillian very well, typical aristocrat.
Just follow my advice and you will be fined when you travel to any iberian speaking country.

I don't think its regarded as an offence to speak poor Spanish.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I don't see how communists and anarchists have "similar goals."

not as much as similar goals but at least fellow travellers for a while. Seems communists (at least over here) seem to think that muslims will fight their revolution for them (and git rid of Israel while they're at it too). Seems like they've forgotten what happened to the non-islamic revolutionaries in Iran. At least that's how the local communists seem to be acting.

[Jacob]

I don't see how communists and anarchists have "similar goals."

What? Really?

Anarchism and Communism share the belief that "man is good by nature" and that the ideal society can be reached through the abolition of private property and mutual aid ("to each according to need, from each according to ability" et. al.). When the oppression of capital and oppression based on class, race, and nationality is swept aside, life will be grand for everyone and peace and prosperity will reign. So, we need a revolution to break the chains that bind us.

Those are pretty much the exact same goals.

The only real difference is that the Communists recognize that there needs to be strong State as an intermediary step as a transition between Capitalism and the Socialist Utopia, though the machinery of the state will eventually dissolve as the consciousness of the workers is expanded.

Conversely, the Anarchists hold that the intermediary strong state is just another form of violent coercion, with the new hierarchy taking the place of the Capitalist oppressive structures, being a destructive deviation from the march towards true Socialism.

At least, those are the classic theoretical underpinnings of Anarchism and Communism. It does seem the Anarchists got the bit about Communism not leading to a Socialist Utopia right.

[Martinus]

I like that people still fall for the fact that Ideologue's nickname somehow implies he has a rudimentary knowledge of ideologies.

[Ideologue]

I don't see how communists and anarchists have "similar goals."

What? Really?

Anarchism and Communism share the belief that "man is good by nature" and that the ideal society can be reached through the abolition of private property and mutual aid ("to each according to need, from each according to ability" et. al.). When the oppression of capital and oppression based on class, race, and nationality is swept aside, life will be grand for everyone and peace and prosperity will reign. So, we need a revolution to break the chains that bind us.

Those are pretty much the exact same goals.

The only real difference is that the Communists recognize that there needs to be strong State as an intermediary step as a transition between Capitalism and the Socialist Utopia, though the machinery of the state will eventually dissolve as the consciousness of the workers is expanded.

Conversely, the Anarchists hold that the intermediary strong state is just another form of violent coercion, with the new hierarchy taking the place of the Capitalist oppressive structures, being a destructive deviation from the march towards true Socialism.

At least, those are the classic theoretical underpinnings of Anarchism and Communism. It does seem the Anarchists got the bit about Communism not leading to a Socialist Utopia right.

Ahem.  To political Islam.

Anyway, any communist who still believes in the withering of the State is an idiot.

[garbon]

Anyway, do not pay attention to the Duke. He is completely wrong and does not speak castillian very well, typical aristocrat.
Just follow my advice and you will be fined when you travel to any iberian speaking country.

I don't think its regarded as an offence to speak poor Spanish.

[The Minsky Moment]

I like that people still fall for the fact that Ideologue's nickname somehow implies he has a rudimentary knowledge of ideologies.

Yeah he's totally hopeless on French New Wave, for example.

[Eddie Teach]

So Siege, Marty and Raz will have your back when Seedy tells you to "get your fucking shinebox"? 

[garbon]

Well Marti will be tackling. Don't know if that counts as "have your back."

[Duque de Bragança]

I like that people still fall for the fact that Ideologue's nickname somehow implies he has a rudimentary knowledge of ideologies.

Yeah he's totally hopeless on French New Wave, for example.

Does not bode well for his review of Le Samouraï, though Melville inspired more the French New Wave than he was part of it. They parted ways quickly in any case.