Revolution a distant memory as Egypt escalates repression

[Martinus]

"They hanker for stability more than freedom." => A common theme in many countries these days.

People do that when they are afraid. And politicians and media make sure they are, whether it's ebola,  terrorism or immigrants taking our jobs.

[Martinus]

3 or 10 or 300, the point is you don't have freedom of assembly.

I also have freedom to use roads    We need to protect public order by imposing some restrictions on public assembly, otherwise it will be legal to occupy highways indefinitely.  The point is that those restrictions have to be carried out in a reasonable and fair manner.  Every year in HK, hundreds of thousands march on different dates to protest against the government, and those protests do receive police permission.  So I think there is good balance.

Just go the fuck away. Will you?

You are currently easily the single most despicable poster on Languish. More than even the likes of Dorsey, Hortlund or Hansmeister at the height of his propaganda spree.

[Admiral Yi]

Lighten the fuck up Francis.

[The Brain]

I can't help thinking that he needs a big cock up his ass on a regular basis to loosen the fuck up. Ask for fucking anal, dude.

[Monoriu]

3 or 10 or 300, the point is you don't have freedom of assembly.

I also have freedom to use roads    We need to protect public order by imposing some restrictions on public assembly, otherwise it will be legal to occupy highways indefinitely.  The point is that those restrictions have to be carried out in a reasonable and fair manner.  Every year in HK, hundreds of thousands march on different dates to protest against the government, and those protests do receive police permission.  So I think there is good balance.

Just go the fuck away. Will you?

You are currently easily the single most despicable poster on Languish. More than even the likes of Dorsey, Hortlund or Hansmeister at the height of his propaganda spree.

But they aren't anime fans 

[Ideologue]

Martinus makes everything personal.

Sure, Mono abides an evil system.  Don't we all?

[garbon]

There is abiding and there is cheering it on.

[Ed Anger]

Lighten the fuck up Francis.

You need to post a picture of Hulka to get the full Lighten Up effect. 

[katmai]

Ed you're my big toe!



But don't tell Marcin!

[MadImmortalMan]

With a fickle dictatorship, you also don't know what you'll get in the future.

That's true, of course, but I am not sure that these arguments are useful to the tens or hundreds of thousands who lost their lives in Syria.  It is easy to sit in your armchair and say "let's overthrow all dictatorships!"  People who actually live under those regimes and have to suffer the consequences of these actions may have different opinions.

That's a question of when, not if.

Those people are going to have to deal with that at some point anyway. The dictatorship-for-stability argument has always been a bit flawed due to the fact that dictatorships are inherently more fragile. Peoples' lifetimes are finite, and transitions are always dangerous.

[Monoriu]

With a fickle dictatorship, you also don't know what you'll get in the future.

That's true, of course, but I am not sure that these arguments are useful to the tens or hundreds of thousands who lost their lives in Syria.  It is easy to sit in your armchair and say "let's overthrow all dictatorships!"  People who actually live under those regimes and have to suffer the consequences of these actions may have different opinions.

That's a question of when, not if.

Those people are going to have to deal with that at some point anyway. The dictatorship-for-stability argument has always been a bit flawed due to the fact that dictatorships are inherently more fragile. Peoples' lifetimes are finite, and transitions are always dangerous.

I think it is a bit more complicated than that.  One, there are obviously many different types of dictatorships.  People may have greater incentive to overthrow a North Korean-style dictatorship than the party in China, where the living standard of the average Joe has improved immeasurably in the past two decades.  Two, are you looking at this from a social point of view or an individual point of view?  There is usually very little that an individual can do about social change. 

[Razgovory]

Mono can you name a dictatorship that exists in the present with its current government, that is older then a 100 years old?

[Monoriu]

Mono can you name a dictatorship that exists in the present with its current government, that is older then a 100 years old?

If you hate the communist government in China so much, then go to Tian An Men yourself and protest against it.  Stop trying to tell me to do it, because I am not interested

[Viking]

Mono can you name a dictatorship that exists in the present with its current government, that is older then a 100 years old?

If you hate the communist government in China so much, then go to Tian An Men yourself and protest against it.  Stop trying to tell me to do it, because I am not interested

"we" already did, many times, again and again.
















It's not easy and often it doesn't take the first time round.

[garbon]