Porn induced erectile dysfunction

[Admiral Yi]

Can't have our boys taking a shit on their junior high prom dates.

[crazy canuck]

Can't have our boys taking a shit on their junior high prom dates.

And that is a good example of why porn is so destructive.  Why would any sane person say such a thing?

[Barrister]

- but rather exposure to hard core porn really does affect how you view sex.

I courteously disagree.

Same.

I don't think there's any room for disagreement, to be honest.  I think it's pretty well studied.

Porn has deeply shaped how kids today view sex.  Several activities that seem to be now-commonplace - oral and anal sex, shaving pubic hair, were not seen in nearly the same numbers as you do nowadays.

[garbon]

Several activities that seem to be now-commonplace - oral and anal sex, shaving pubic hair, were not seen in nearly the same numbers as you do nowadays.

Oh no!

[Syt]

Studies and surveys over here show that teenagers understand that porn is a fantasy, and that reality is quite different.

From what I understand from friends and family with kids is that teens will find a way to view porn if they want to (and have for generations, in pre-internet times, too). It comes down to educating them about the difference between what they may find online, and what happens in real life, and that generally speaking things are ok, if the persons involved want it and enjoy it.

I guess an additional topic these days would be warnings about what kind of images they share among themselves and of themselves, and that there's always a risk of "problematic" images becoming widely shared, even against their wishes - celebrity nudie leaks should illustrate that nicely, or any other story online where someone's life took a sharp turn because their private images got circulated in class or among friends.

[crazy canuck]

Studies and surveys over here show that teenagers understand that porn is a fantasy, and that reality is quite different.

From what I understand from friends and family with kids is that teens will find a way to view porn if they want to (and have for generations, in pre-internet times, too). It comes down to educating them about the difference between what they may find online, and what happens in real life, and that generally speaking things are ok, if the persons involved want it and enjoy it.

I guess an additional topic these days would be warnings about what kind of images they share among themselves and of themselves, and that there's always a risk of "problematic" images becoming widely shared, even against their wishes - celebrity nudie leaks should illustrate that nicely, or any other story online where someone's life took a sharp turn because their private images got circulated in class or among friends.

Yep, agree with everything you said.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Those are not very scary examples you gave BB 

I'm all for consensual off-piste sexual entertainment; but there is that big problem/fear that lads might normalise misogyny if online porn is their main information at a tender age, that is the main worry I would argue.

[Martinus]

Newsflash: humanity will manage.

[Barrister]

Those are not very scary examples you gave BB 

I'm all for consensual off-piste sexual entertainment; but there is that big problem/fear that lads might normalise misogyny if online porn is their main information at a tender age, that is the main worry I would argue.

Well, I didn't say the internet was scary and horrible.  It's just very very powerful.

[Barrister]

Newsflash: humanity will manage.

Humanity can go hang - I just want to make sure I do the best I can for my boys.

[Martinus]

Yeah, with three boys I'm not sure how to handle the whole internet.  Obviously it's not anything I ever had to deal with when growing up.   And it's not that I'm such a prude that I don't want the boys ever seeing a nekkid lady - but rather exposure to hard core porn really does affect how you view sex.

My view is it is important for them to understand that wanting to see pictures/vidoes of naked women is perfectly normal and where not to cross the line to the stuff that is harmful.  Where that line is located is the big parenting issue and something we talk about in terms of respect for their partners etc.  I suppose at the end of the day the one message I really drum into them is the respect issue.

I never wanted to see pictures/videos of naked women. 

[Martinus]

Newsflash: humanity will manage.

Humanity can go hang - I just want to make sure I do the best I can for my boys.

Which is why parents should not have voting rights.

[garbon]

Yeah, with three boys I'm not sure how to handle the whole internet.  Obviously it's not anything I ever had to deal with when growing up.   And it's not that I'm such a prude that I don't want the boys ever seeing a nekkid lady - but rather exposure to hard core porn really does affect how you view sex.

My view is it is important for them to understand that wanting to see pictures/vidoes of naked women is perfectly normal and where not to cross the line to the stuff that is harmful.  Where that line is located is the big parenting issue and something we talk about in terms of respect for their partners etc.  I suppose at the end of the day the one message I really drum into them is the respect issue.

I never wanted to see pictures/videos of naked women. 

I did. Though I got my fill of that from National Geographic.

[CountDeMoney]

I don't think there's any room for disagreement, to be honest.  I think it's pretty well studied.

Porn has deeply shaped how kids today view sex.  Several activities that seem to be now-commonplace - oral and anal sex, shaving pubic hair, were not seen in nearly the same numbers as you do nowadays.

Contrary to your moralistic Canadian high-mindedness, I would argue that suppression, censorship and other such strict puritanical negative controls actually does more damage to how sex is viewed by kids and how sexuality and sexual outlook evolves for them.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Newsflash: humanity will manage.

Humanity can go hang - I just want to make sure I do the best I can for my boys.

With the internet available I think it becomes even more important to have conversations about such matters with one's children, we need to be more open about such matters than we have been in the past.