Rethinking Sherman's March: A Kindler, Gentler Total War?

Started by CountDeMoney, November 19, 2014, 10:23:34 AM

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derspiess

Quote from: Razgovory on November 19, 2014, 02:20:58 PM
We had the misfortune of having southerns writing our histories.  Sherman, unlike Lee did not kidnap people in the territories he marched through and then sell them into chattel slavery.

In fairness, Northern troops did press escaped slaves ("contraband") into service as laborers when the Northern army went south.  Not quite as bad as enslaving (or re-enslaving) them, but it bears mentioning.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on November 19, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 19, 2014, 02:20:58 PM
We had the misfortune of having southerns writing our histories.  Sherman, unlike Lee did not kidnap people in the territories he marched through and then sell them into chattel slavery.

In fairness, Northern troops did press escaped slaves ("contraband") into service as laborers when the Northern army went south.  Not quite as bad as enslaving (or re-enslaving) them, but it bears mentioning.

Thank you for mentioning that in fairness.  derdixie.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 19, 2014, 03:10:15 PM
Thank you for mentioning that in fairness.  derdixie.

:rolleyes: I'm a member of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War.

I just think some of you let your hatred of all things Southern cloud your judgment sometimes.  Yes, we Yankees were the good guys and the Rebels were the bad guys.  But not everyone on the Southern side was evil.

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derspiess

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Kleves

I think we can all agree that, in the end, the main criticism that can be levelled at the March to the Sea was that Sherman didn't kill enough southerners.
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Quote from: Kleves on November 19, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
I think we can all agree that, in the end, the main criticism that can be levelled at the March to the Sea was that Sherman didn't kill enough southerners.

2/10.
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Quote from: Habbaku on November 19, 2014, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: Kleves on November 19, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
I think we can all agree that, in the end, the main criticism that can be levelled at the March to the Sea was that Sherman didn't kill enough southerners.

2/10.

That would have been a high enough ratio, but Sherman never approached that.
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CountDeMoney

Should've split his column further and made a March to the Rio Grande as well.  Texas goofs.