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The Banking Crisis and the Settlement

Started by Jacob, November 07, 2014, 12:08:29 PM

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alfred russel

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 08, 2014, 02:00:43 PM
However the particular series of transactions referenced in the article appear not to have involved Bear Sterns.

I know, but MM referenced them, and Berkut seemed to be responding to something he wrote in that reference.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 08, 2014, 02:00:43 PM
However the particular series of transactions referenced in the article appear not to have involved Bear Sterns.

The transaction referenced in the article was a $900 million deal.

The cash fine was $9 billion total. 
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

citizen k

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Banks pay up and carry on after FX fines 11:54am EST * Return seen to business as usual
* Call for punishments to go beyond fines
* "Wild West" financial markets need reform
By Patrick Graham and Jamie McGeever
LONDON, Nov 12 (Reuters) - Far from chastening the world's biggest currency trading firms, the multi-billion dollar fines levied by regulators on Wednesday are more likely to draw a line under the affair and gradually allow a return to business as usual.
A year into a wide-ranging industry probe into charges that banks routinely fleeced clients over currencies, industry observers and politicians were frustrated by a deal they said showed the affair will end just with fines rather than any reform of what they say is the Wild West of financial markets.
The $4.3 billion in fines handed down on Wednesday are unprecedented, but do not mark the end of the process; individuals may yet be prosecuted and time will tell if that discourages the next generation of traders from doing what they have always tended to do naturally: put their interests ahead of their banks, their banks' interest ahead of the client's and the client's last.
The U.S. Department of Justice has also yet to report and has been a heavier hitter than its European peers to date, a hint that it may yet have the appetite to push for more fundamental change.
But in essence, Wednesday's rulings put the foreign exchange market, long "self-regulated" by banks and people who provide services to banks, well on the way to seeing off any risk of a new era of overarching global regulation.
"It seems to be business as usual -- banks blow up, pay fines, and we move on. They just seem to be inventing new ways to break the rules," said Mark Garnier, a former City financier and Conservative member of the UK parliamentary committee charged with overseeing finance.
"The fines are meaningless. £400 million or £4 billion. There's only one fine that's important and that's if they're being taken out of traders' bonus pool. The individuals and those around them have to start feeling the pinch as well, not the banks' shareholders, staff and customers."
MONEY-SPINNER
Frightened a year ago by the prospect of fines that dwarfed those handed out in the Libor interest rate rigging scandal and regulation that might eat into profits from one of their biggest money-spinners, banks have invested millions in trying to put a lid on the fixing row.
Industry figures say they have found ready support in a British political establishment worried over the impact on the status of London as the world's main currency trading hub, responsible for an estimated 40 percent of all daily flows.
The strategy, broadly, has been to put the blame on a handful of rogue "bad apples" who just happened to be ranking currency traders in each of the industry's dominant players.
They have fallen over themselves to play ball with the regulators and, given the complicated technical and financial nature of the probe, lawyers and consultants employed by banks have done much of the actual investigative work.
"The banks have been allowed to investigate themselves," one source familiar with the investigation told Reuters. "The investigated decide what they want to investigate, what they admit to, and how much they will pay."
DOMINANCE
The regulator will now ensure that standards for systems and controls at the other 36 banks in the industry will be overhauled, with managers attesting that action has been taken, ensuring individual accountability.
In a process overseen by the G20's regulatory arm, the Financial Stability Board, banks and investment managers have agreed to changes including an extension of the window in which the main fixing benchmarks are measured, a separation of fixing orders from spot trading and efforts to unify codes of conduct.
But traders have already begun to point to weakness in those reforms, whose effect they say will be to strengthen the still growing dominance of Citi, Deutsche Bank and Barclays, and a handful of others, over the market.
"In the broader picture, it often seems to me like this has just been a land grab by the regulatory, advisory and legal profession in banking," one senior dealer told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Industry professionals have argued strongly that there is no reason to make forex as tightly regulated as stock or derivative markets -- by putting trading on exchanges for example -- because it is a cash market that hence carries none of the systemic risk behind the 2008 crisis.
In that vein, it seems no surprise that UK finance minister George Osborne has effectively kicked discussion of any further changes, under the UK Fair and  Effective Markets Review, back past next year's parliamentary elections.
"I cannot now imagine the scenario under which Osborne or any other politician presses for something heavier than what is now on the table," one senior figure in London banking told Reuters last month, speaking on condition of anonymity.
"I hope that means we can get back to something resembling normal business pretty soon."
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The Minsky Moment

The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

CountDeMoney

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 14, 2014, 10:10:22 AM
Now that's a scandal.

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll make up the money in short order.  It won't be missed too long.