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It's Time for An American Jihad

Started by JonasSalk, October 29, 2014, 08:38:18 PM

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PDH

#15
October 30, 2014, 07:50:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 30, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 30, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
He was also kinda forgetting about Vietnam when he went on about the God given right the US has to win all its wars.

Oh my God never get those dudes going about Vietnam.

IT WAS A TIE!
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Tonitrus

#16
October 30, 2014, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: JonasSalk on October 30, 2014, 06:26:17 PM
And Korea...and Afghanistan...and War of 1812...

Korea was a victory, in that the the overall objective was achieved (protection/liberation of South Korea). 

Vietnam/Iraq can be called losses, because the objectives were not achieved (even if the imbalance in casualties against "the enemy" very much on our side...but that didn't work for the Nazis either).

Afghanistan is still an open question....but doesn't look good.

Razgovory

#17
October 30, 2014, 08:35:52 PM
Pancho Villa expedition wasn't exactly a big success.  Barbary war wasn't a great victory either.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#18
October 30, 2014, 08:38:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 30, 2014, 08:35:52 PM
Barbary war wasn't a great victory either.

It wasn't?  I thought after that the Barbary Pirates stopped capturing our ships and the Marines won glory on the shores of Tripoli.  To be fair I may not be entirely well informed about that conflict.

We won the Korean Expedition of 1871 at least.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#19
October 30, 2014, 08:38:54 PM
Quote from: PDH on October 30, 2014, 07:50:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 30, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 30, 2014, 03:52:12 PM
He was also kinda forgetting about Vietnam when he went on about the God given right the US has to win all its wars.

Oh my God never get those dudes going about Vietnam.

IT WAS A TIE!

Nah it was a victory until Jane Fonda singlehandedly undermined the whole war effort.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

#20
October 30, 2014, 08:42:31 PM
I thought Shores of Tripoli was a victory too.

CountDeMoney

#21
October 30, 2014, 08:56:32 PM
It was.  Raz is being Razzy.

Tonitrus

#22
October 30, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
A quick scan of the wiki articles on the 1st/2nd Barbary Wars make it look like a general clusterfuck, for both sides.

And 8 marines leading hundreds of Greek mercenaries makes the "Shores of Tripoli" seem more of a PR victory (but then it worked for Cortez).

Admiral Yi

#23
October 30, 2014, 09:05:50 PM
We freed out dudes and didn't pay any more tribute.

Eddie Teach

#24
October 31, 2014, 12:09:05 AM
Appears Salk is a Canadian spy. Get him!
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The Brain

#25
October 31, 2014, 03:07:59 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 30, 2014, 08:42:31 PM
I thought Shores of Tripoli was a victory too.

It led to Jersey Shore.
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Razgovory

#26
October 31, 2014, 05:10:24 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 30, 2014, 09:05:50 PM
We freed out dudes and didn't pay any more tribute.

We did pay the tribute, we just called it a ransom.  They still took Americans hostages.  The second Barbary War seems have bit more of an effect, though the British suppression of piracy in the region was probably a bigger factor.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

#27
November 01, 2014, 08:58:50 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on October 30, 2014, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Tyr on October 30, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
Hey, if America wants to conquer the world I'm sure half of the third world would jump at the chance to be annexed by the US.

Maybe, but we are 0-2 with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Not really examples of people being asked if they wanted to join the US.
In that case the middle east would likely be a spotty area but many in Africa would jump at it.
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Tonitrus

#28
November 01, 2014, 03:12:20 PM
Actually, I'd be surprised if any did.

No African regime will want some outsiders cutting in on their corruption.

Josquius

#29
November 01, 2014, 03:32:41 PM
The regimes wouldnt. Im talking about the people though. Fuck nationalism if it means the freedom to move to the west and massive investment in their land to bring it to western standards.
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