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The Jian Ghomeshi saga

Started by Barrister, October 27, 2014, 10:03:26 AM

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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on October 27, 2014, 02:46:33 PM
The whole concept of BDSM strikes me (heh) as a completely foreign concept.  To each his own of course, but I can't grasp how anyone would derive pleasure from it.

I guess it has something to do with the pain/pleasure receptors. I mean unless someone is loosey goosey, there's always some discomfort and/or pain with penetrative sex (throw oral in that same bucket) but you don't see that putting people off of it.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

You people are just doing it wrong.  :glare:

derspiess

Quote from: garbon on October 27, 2014, 03:30:16 PM
I guess it has something to do with the pain/pleasure receptors. I mean unless someone is loosey goosey, there's always some discomfort and/or pain with penetrative sex

I think we have different perspectives on that.  I can't think of any pain or discomfort and I'm always extra careful not to cause any (I'd definitely hear about it otherwise).
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on October 27, 2014, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 27, 2014, 03:30:16 PM
I guess it has something to do with the pain/pleasure receptors. I mean unless someone is loosey goosey, there's always some discomfort and/or pain with penetrative sex

I think we have different perspectives on that.  I can't think of any pain or discomfort and I'm always extra careful not to cause any (I'd definitely hear about it otherwise).

Well I suppose penis size does play a role. ^_^
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

MadImmortalMan

Eventually, we're all going to be reduced to sex being the Demolition Man method. Everyone so paranoid of accusations that touching is just forbidden.

Well, until somebody decides to claim virtual rape. Then we're over as a species.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Valmy

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 27, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
Eventually, we're all going to be reduced to sex being the Demolition Man method. Everyone so paranoid of accusations that touching is just forbidden.

Well, until somebody decides to claim virtual rape. Then we're over as a species.

Nonsense.  The sex drive is too strong and constantly laughs at attempts to legalize it out of existence.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

MadImmortalMan

The sex drive has been constrained by legal means since before written history. What makes you think it can't be done?
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

CountDeMoney

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 27, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
Eventually, we're all going to be reduced to sex being the Demolition Man method. Everyone so paranoid of accusations that touching is just forbidden.

Well, until somebody decides to claim virtual rape. Then we're over as a species.

60 Minutes had a piece last night on genetic engineering and the future ability to map out pathways for eliminating potential genetic dispositions to birth defects, etc.;  the scientist even said that we'd eventually arrive at procreation without intercourse, as having sex would simply be too dangerous.

Valmy

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 27, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
60 Minutes had a piece last night on genetic engineering and the future ability to map out pathways for eliminating potential genetic dispositions to birth defects, etc.;  the scientist even said that we'd eventually arrive at procreation without intercourse, as having sex would simply be too dangerous.

Too dangerous for what?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 27, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
The sex drive has been constrained by legal means since before written history. What makes you think it can't be done?

Because it has generally failed to be effective?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Josephus

Quote from: Barrister on October 27, 2014, 02:01:54 PM
Toronto Star says that they investigated the story, declined to publicize it due to lack of corroboration, but changed their mind after Ghomeshi's "extraordinary statement on Facebook".

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/10/26/why_the_star_chose_to_publish_jian_ghomeshi_allegations.html

Again - I'm no PR professional but his decision to "get in front of this story" still seems very questionable.

Yes. The timing seems strange. There's some things we obviously don't know.
Why did CBC fire him this weekend? The Star's been working on the story for months, and CBC knew about it.
Why did Ghomeshi release his version of the story? ie. Why confess the lurid details and why now?

Seems to me he knew something was coming out and wanted to nip it in the bud. Or he new that the story would come out in any legal action he took, and wanted to come out first with a "see I got nothing to hide.'

Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Valmy on October 27, 2014, 04:12:56 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 27, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
The sex drive has been constrained by legal means since before written history. What makes you think it can't be done?

Because it has generally failed to be effective?

Well it's never 100% effective. But it was sure effective at the suppression of things like homosexuality. I don't want to drive sex into the black market any more than it already is.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on October 27, 2014, 04:12:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 27, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
60 Minutes had a piece last night on genetic engineering and the future ability to map out pathways for eliminating potential genetic dispositions to birth defects, etc.;  the scientist even said that we'd eventually arrive at procreation without intercourse, as having sex would simply be too dangerous.

Too dangerous for what?

To risk the potential in birth defects.  Everybody is a carrier of bad genetic material for something;  it's when two people who carry the same bad genetic material procreate that bad shit can happen.  It's all X and Y stuff.

Jacob

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 27, 2014, 04:16:39 PMWell it's never 100% effective. But it was sure effective at the suppression of things like homosexuality. I don't want to drive sex into the black market any more than it already is.

What a peculiar viewpoint  :huh: