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Started by FunkMonk, October 24, 2014, 05:49:36 PM

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grumbler

#15
October 25, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 25, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
That doesn't explain the relative position of the "left" media.  How the fuck is MSNBC to the right of The Economist, to mention only two examples?
Because that's what the results showed.  More people who identified more left had read the Economist in the last week than had seen MSNBC.  This graph isn't a left-right ranking of shows/publications; its a left-right ranking of viewers/readers.
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Razgovory

#16
October 25, 2014, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 25, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
Two major factors:  Youth and eclectic worldview.  College kids are more likely to get news from the Daily Show or Buzzfeed and they are more likely to lean left.  Other Leftists take in a wider variety of sources.  Right wingers seem to have an aversion to newspapers, and seem to prefer an explicit right wing bias, to the point where they seem to prefer getting new information from radio shows that simply tell that was is good and bad.

That doesn't explain the relative position of the "left" media.  How the fuck is MSNBC to the right of The Economist, to mention only two examples?

Okay, I think one of us is reading the graph wrong.  Since you were in bad mood this week I'll let you decide who it is.
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Razgovory

#18
October 25, 2014, 05:43:01 PM
Well don't leave us in suspense, who's right?
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Eddie Teach

#19
October 25, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
Rush is right.
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dps

#20
October 25, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
Right wingers seem to have an aversion to newspapers

Do you just make this stuff up?  I don't speak for everyone on the right, but in general I still prefer to get my new via print media.  Well, I use electronic media to catch breaking news, but I'll go to print for in-depth coverage.

Savonarola

#21
October 25, 2014, 08:44:51 PM
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FunkMonk

#22
October 25, 2014, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: dps on October 25, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
Right wingers seem to have an aversion to newspapers

Do you just make this stuff up?  I don't speak for everyone on the right, but in general I still prefer to get my new via print media.  Well, I use electronic media to catch breaking news, but I'll go to print for in-depth coverage.

Actually, the survey does talk about this (in a general sense of course, not about you specifically).

QuoteThose with consistently conservative political values are oriented around a single outlet—Fox News—to a much greater degree than those in any other ideological group: Nearly half (47%) of those who are consistently conservative name Fox News as their main source for government and political news. Far fewer choose any other single source: Local radio ranks second, named by 11%, with no other individual source named by more than 5% of consistent conservatives. Those with mostly conservative views also gravitate strongly toward Fox News – 31% name it as their main source, several times the share who name the next most popular sources, including CNN (9%), local television (6%) and radio (6%) and Yahoo News (6%).



The part about trust/mistrust of media sources is pretty interesting, btw.
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Valmy

#23
October 25, 2014, 09:31:48 PM
Given CNN's ratings I have a hard time believing that many people consider it their #1 news source.  Or maybe they just very rarely check the news.
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#24
October 25, 2014, 09:55:49 PM
Why isn't "The Young Turks" on the chart? I don't much care for them myself, but my brother watches them religiously.
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dps

#25
October 25, 2014, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 25, 2014, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: dps on October 25, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
Right wingers seem to have an aversion to newspapers

Do you just make this stuff up?  I don't speak for everyone on the right, but in general I still prefer to get my new via print media.  Well, I use electronic media to catch breaking news, but I'll go to print for in-depth coverage.

Actually, the survey does talk about this (in a general sense of course, not about you specifically).

QuoteThose with consistently conservative political values are oriented around a single outlet—Fox News—to a much greater degree than those in any other ideological group: Nearly half (47%) of those who are consistently conservative name Fox News as their main source for government and political news. Far fewer choose any other single source: Local radio ranks second, named by 11%, with no other individual source named by more than 5% of consistent conservatives. Those with mostly conservative views also gravitate strongly toward Fox News – 31% name it as their main source, several times the share who name the next most popular sources, including CNN (9%), local television (6%) and radio (6%) and Yahoo News (6%).



The part about trust/mistrust of media sources is pretty interesting, btw.


None of that really addresses the issue of print vs electronic media.

Valmy

#26
October 25, 2014, 10:23:49 PM Last Edit: October 25, 2014, 10:25:48 PM by Valmy
Quote from: dps on October 25, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 25, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
Right wingers seem to have an aversion to newspapers

Do you just make this stuff up?  I don't speak for everyone on the right, but in general I still prefer to get my new via print media.  Well, I use electronic media to catch breaking news, but I'll go to print for in-depth coverage.

I don't think tendencies on a pollster style level really are determinative of every single person.  Just trends.  Don't take it personally.  Of course only for very conservative people did local print media even show up :hmm:
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Berkut

#27
October 25, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
Nothing surprising here, about what is to be expected. The radical right is considerably more insular than the radical left, and Fox News is consistently the worst possible mainstream news source one can imagine.
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Valmy

#28
October 25, 2014, 11:10:39 PM
I get all my news from Tim.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Brain

#29
October 25, 2014, 11:16:40 PM
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