Ultra-Orthodox Jews delay El Al flight, refusing to sit near women

Started by Martinus, September 26, 2014, 06:54:56 AM

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Malthus

Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Incidentally, the Polish supreme court just ruled that a sikh must remove his head gear at airport security control (but can expect this being done in a private room). Thoughts?

What's the rationale?
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Jacob

Quote from: Malthus on September 29, 2014, 01:20:39 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Incidentally, the Polish supreme court just ruled that a sikh must remove his head gear at airport security control (but can expect this being done in a private room). Thoughts?

What's the rationale?

Equality before the law and sensible security arrangements (and who gives a fuck about foreigners with strange customs).

Malthus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 26, 2014, 12:43:48 PM
I think I read recently that 60% of American Jews are now ultra-Orthodox, because of their high birth rate.

Not according to this survey.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/jewish-american-beliefs-attitudes-culture-survey/

It says Orthodox Jews are the smallest denomination, at 10%. The "ultra Orthodox" are a subset of that (a total of 6%).

In contrast, Reform is 35% and Conservative is 18%.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-3-jewish-identity/#denominational-identity

QuoteMore than one-third of U.S. Jews (35%) identify with the Reform movement. About one-in-five (18%) identify with the Conservative movement. One-in-ten Jews identify with Orthodox Judaism (10%), including 6% who belong to Ultra-Orthodox groups and 3% who are Modern Orthodox. Three-in-ten Jews (30%) do not identify with any particular Jewish denomination. The remainder (7%) identify with smaller movements (such as Reconstructionism or the Jewish Renewal movement), say they belong to more than one movement (such as both Conservative and Orthodox), or decline to answer the question.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Malthus

Quote from: Jacob on September 29, 2014, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 29, 2014, 01:20:39 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Incidentally, the Polish supreme court just ruled that a sikh must remove his head gear at airport security control (but can expect this being done in a private room). Thoughts?

What's the rationale?

Equality before the law and sensible security arrangements (and who gives a fuck about foreigners with strange customs).

Doesn't strike me as making any sense. The head covering is just a bit of cloth. Sure, you could smuggle stuff in that, as long as it wasn't metal; but so could you smuggle stuff down your pants, and they don't routinely strip-search everyone.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Sheilbh

Quote from: Malthus on September 29, 2014, 01:31:28 PM
Doesn't strike me as making any sense. The head covering is just a bit of cloth. Sure, you could smuggle stuff in that, as long as it wasn't metal; but so could you smuggle stuff down your pants, and they don't routinely strip-search everyone.
Exactly.
Let's bomb Russia!