Ultra-Orthodox Jews delay El Al flight, refusing to sit near women

Started by Martinus, September 26, 2014, 06:54:56 AM

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Razgovory

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 26, 2014, 08:00:09 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 26, 2014, 06:57:11 AM
When did this become a talking point amongst atheists?

When Al Gore invented the internet, and they could say such things without fear of a belligerent theist or group of theists beating them down.

Well without Atheism how would we know we are smarter then other people on the internet?
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viper37

Quote from: Martinus on September 26, 2014, 06:54:56 AM
They should have been kicked off the flight the very first moment they started causing trouble.
no, no, we must respect every religious belief no matter how silly they are.
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Maybe there's a biblical/Jewish reference to the skies being the domain of only god. That way they could insist that these literalists/fundamentalists mustn't fly in aircraft? :unsure:
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: mongers on September 26, 2014, 07:12:10 PM
Maybe there's a biblical/Jewish reference to the skies being the domain of only god. That way they could insist that these literalists/fundamentalists mustn't fly in aircraft? :unsure:

interesting. To the pope-mobile!

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OttoVonBismarck

Yeah, I'm not sure what's to be done about ultra-Orthodox Jews. They populate in really high numbers and they are hardly better than radical Islamists. I hate any religious person whose religious practice makes them so incompatible with modern society. To be honest if it just targeted Orthodox Jews I wouldn't have nearly the same opposition to the Holocaust.

Martinus

Incidentally, the Polish supreme court just ruled that a sikh must remove his head gear at airport security control (but can expect this being done in a private room). Thoughts?

Zanza

They could just book a business class flight where they get a seat that is separated from the neighbor...

Sheilbh

Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Incidentally, the Polish supreme court just ruled that a sikh must remove his head gear at airport security control (but can expect this being done in a private room). Thoughts?
What do you mean by security control?

If it's just the normal walk through the metal detector and x-ray your jacket then it seems a bit much that they have to remove the turban too and inconvenient if they have to do it in private.

If it's as part of a more complete search then I think it seems sensible.
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Martinus

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 27, 2014, 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Incidentally, the Polish supreme court just ruled that a sikh must remove his head gear at airport security control (but can expect this being done in a private room). Thoughts?
What do you mean by security control?

If it's just the normal walk through the metal detector and x-ray your jacket then it seems a bit much that they have to remove the turban too and inconvenient if they have to do it in private.

If it's as part of a more complete search then I think it seems sensible.

Metal detector thingie. Everyone has to remove their headgear, their coat, jacket and you may be asked to remove your shoes.

The Brain

Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Incidentally, the Polish supreme court just ruled that a sikh must remove his head gear at airport security control (but can expect this being done in a private room). Thoughts?

Can't they ride through the baggage scanning equipment?
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garbon

Quote from: Martinus on September 28, 2014, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 27, 2014, 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Incidentally, the Polish supreme court just ruled that a sikh must remove his head gear at airport security control (but can expect this being done in a private room). Thoughts?
What do you mean by security control?

If it's just the normal walk through the metal detector and x-ray your jacket then it seems a bit much that they have to remove the turban too and inconvenient if they have to do it in private.

If it's as part of a more complete search then I think it seems sensible.

Metal detector thingie. Everyone has to remove their headgear, their coat, jacket and you may be asked to remove your shoes.

Seems a bit unnecessary.
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Quote from: Martinus on September 28, 2014, 12:29:34 AM
Metal detector thingie. Everyone has to remove their headgear, their coat, jacket and you may be asked to remove your shoes.

Sounds like bullshit, then.

I guess Poland doesn't do much tourism or trade with the Sikh regions of India so it doesn't amount to much, but it seems pretty parochial.