Columbia student carrying mattress until school expels her rapist

Started by garbon, September 24, 2014, 08:47:39 AM

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Barrister

Quote from: DGuller on September 24, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2014, 11:37:13 AM
But there's a separate statistic that says onein five women report being raped in their lifetime, not merely sexually assaulted.
Lifetime spans more than 4 years in college.

No kidding.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on September 24, 2014, 10:14:37 AM
There does seem to be increasing pressure for universities to "do more" to combat and punish alleged rape.  I'm not sure what more can be done though unless they want to strip away due process rights for anyone accused of rape.

For starters, how about stop playing games with incidents subject to CLERY Act reporting requirements, since we dont want to scare off Brittany's and Christian's parents from sending them and their out-of-state tuition to our school with real statistics.

garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 24, 2014, 12:09:57 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 24, 2014, 10:14:37 AM
There does seem to be increasing pressure for universities to "do more" to combat and punish alleged rape.  I'm not sure what more can be done though unless they want to strip away due process rights for anyone accused of rape.

For starters, how about stop playing games with incidents subject to CLERY Act reporting requirements, since we dont want to scare off Brittany's and Christian's parents from sending them and their out-of-state tuition to our school with real statistics.

Yeah I recall Stanford getting bashed by students for downplaying suicide figures / its overall response to a string of incidents one year.
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DGuller

Quote from: garbon on September 24, 2014, 12:13:08 PM
Yeah I recall Stanford getting bashed by students for downplaying suicide figures / its overall response to a string of incidents one year.
The students hung themselves before they moved to campus.  :mad:

garbon

Quote from: DGuller on September 24, 2014, 12:15:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 24, 2014, 12:13:08 PM
Yeah I recall Stanford getting bashed by students for downplaying suicide figures / its overall response to a string of incidents one year.
The students hung themselves before they moved to campus.  :mad:

A quick search reveals that the administration has not gotten any better on the matter since I graduated. :(
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Legbiter

Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2014, 11:00:14 AMSeems that is the problem. They should stick to "disciplining" students over purely academic matters, and leave criminal matters to the courts. 

It strikes me at least of creating all sorts of problems to in effect "try" someone of a serious crime in what amounts to an administrative hearing.

Looked at this a little more closely. That college panel/kangaroo court didn't buy her story. She's FWB with her fellow student, he allegedly sticks it in her ass one time they're having sex and stops calling, she suddenly discovers she's a rape victim and turns the whole thing into her thesis project.

Also, she's evidently enlisted help with the actual mattress carrying/attention whoring:

http://columbiaspectator.com/spectrum/2014/09/10/students-help-emma-sulkowicz-carry-mattress-class-first-collective-carry#.VBGo3yLVc2x.twitter

QuoteAccording to the rules of her performance art piece, Sulkowicz is not allowed to ask for help to carry the mattress, though she can accept help if someone offers it to her.

...SNIP...

"As students, I like the fact that we can step up and share the weight with her—that she doesn't have to do this all alone," Bridgette Tolbert, CC '18, said.



Observe Queen Bee basking in the adoration of her subjects. Note the hopeful White Knight on the left. :lmfao:

The whole thing is very funny except crazy chicks like this can ruin lives plus whatever scorn I feel towards her probably pales in comparison to what real rape victims must be feeling when they see malignant shit like this.
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Ideologue

Quote from: gA quick search reveals that the administration has not gotten any better on the matter since I graduated.
Why should they?  They're Stanford.  Who would fail to consent to sex with a Stanford student?  No one.  QED.
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Josquius

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garbon

Quote from: Legbiter on September 24, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Looked at this a little more closely. That college panel/kangaroo court didn't buy her story. She's FWB with her fellow student, he allegedly sticks it in her ass one time they're having sex and stops calling, she suddenly discovers she's a rape victim and turns the whole thing into her thesis project.

:lol:

You are ridiculous.
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garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2014, 12:21:32 PM
Quote from: gA quick search reveals that the administration has not gotten any better on the matter since I graduated.
Why should they?  They're Stanford.  Who would fail to consent to sex with a Stanford student?  No one.  QED.

I was mentioning suicide but err...is this one of those not funny jokes? :(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

So where's the defamation lawsuit?  Not one?  Interesting.
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Ideologue

Quote from: garbon on September 24, 2014, 12:24:38 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 24, 2014, 12:21:32 PM
Quote from: gA quick search reveals that the administration has not gotten any better on the matter since I graduated.
Why should they?  They're Stanford.  Who would fail to consent to sex with a Stanford student?  No one.  QED.

I was mentioning suicide but err...is this one of those not funny jokes? :(

100% misreading.  I'm bleary today.  My bad.
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derspiess

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grumbler

Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2014, 11:00:14 AM
Seems that is the problem. They should stick to "disciplining" students over purely academic matters, and leave criminal matters to the courts. 

It strikes me at least of creating all sorts of problems to in effect "try" someone of a serious crime in what amounts to an administrative hearing.

The legal system has its methods of dealing with things like this, and didn't find sufficient evidence to prosecute.

The school is legally obliged by Title IX of the US Code to provide an educational atmosphere as free as possible of hostile sexual relations and fear.  Students acts that fall short of criminal behavior can still create an unacceptable hostile atmosphere for women.  Title IX requires the universities to combat such non-criminal-but-still-hostile behavior, up to and including dismissing students who have been administratively judged to have violated the student code of conduct by impermissible sexual behavior.

It is always easy to dismiss non-criminal behavior as nobody's business, but that isn't true even theoretically.
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Martinus

Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2014, 11:00:14 AM
Seems that is the problem. They should stick to "disciplining" students over purely academic matters, and leave criminal matters to the courts. 

While I generally agree with some of your concerns, I am not sure this is actually the case - "civilian" institutions (such as universities, corporations etc.) do regularly discipline their students, employees etc. over inappropriate behaviour that is not criminal per se and has nothing to do with their academic or professional performance.