Dispatches from the State Ministry of Truth

Started by Jacob, September 22, 2014, 10:05:27 AM

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Monoriu

They'll probably block roads in the central business district on 1 October too.  And surround the central government complex.  3 metre high defensive works have been completed :yeah:

Syt

So, when are the tanks rolling in?
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Monoriu

Quote from: Syt on September 22, 2014, 10:28:35 AM
So, when are the tanks rolling in?

If they just want to skip classes and demonstrate on campus, they can do it for as long as they want.  If they don't fulfill the attendance requirements and can't graduate, it is their problem (HK doesn't have a real credit system where you can complete your degree in whatever amount of time you want.  You generally must graduate within 4 years). 

They have already tried blocking roads a few months ago.  The police surrounded them, picked them up one-by-one and cleared the area within a few hours.  The same thing will happen when they try the same tactic again, likely on 1 October (national day of China).  If the scale is too large, the police will use tear gas to reduce the numbers.  Correctional services has already prepared facilities to process thousands.  In any case, it'll be over in a day or two. 

It is important to note that a criminal record is a huge deal in HK, even for something as minor as disruption of the peace.  No professional licences, no financial jobs, no government jobs, no security jobs, etc.  This is the reason why the organisers of the protests don't want anyone below 40 to participate in road-blocking.  Doesn't stop people from trying though. 

garbon

Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 22, 2014, 10:28:35 AM
So, when are the tanks rolling in?

If they just want to skip classes and demonstrate on campus, they can do it for as long as they want.  If they don't fulfill the attendance requirements and can't graduate, it is their problem (HK doesn't have a real credit system where you can complete your degree in whatever amount of time you want.  You generally must graduate within 4 years). 

They have already tried blocking roads a few months ago.  The police surrounded them, picked them up one-by-one and cleared the area within a few hours.  The same thing will happen when they try the same tactic again, likely on 1 October (national day of China).  If the scale is too large, the police will use tear gas to reduce the numbers.  Correctional services has already prepared facilities to process thousands.  In any case, it'll be over in a day or two. 

It is important to note that a criminal record is a huge deal in HK, even for something as minor as disruption of the peace.  No professional licences, no financial jobs, no government jobs, no security jobs, etc.  This is the reason why the organisers of the protests don't want anyone below 40 to participate in road-blocking.  Doesn't stop people from trying though. 

Sounds like an oppressive hellhole.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 22, 2014, 10:28:35 AM
So, when are the tanks rolling in?


It is important to note that a criminal record is a huge deal in HK, even for something as minor as disruption of the peace.  No professional licences, no financial jobs, no government jobs, no security jobs, etc.  This is the reason why the organisers of the protests don't want anyone below 40 to participate in road-blocking.  Doesn't stop people from trying though.
If so many get arrested that the number of people in that generation without a criminal record is lower than the number of people need for those professions than the standards will be changed.
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Valmy

Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
It is important to note that a criminal record is a huge deal in HK, even for something as minor as disruption of the peace.  No professional licences, no financial jobs, no government jobs, no security jobs, etc.  This is the reason why the organisers of the protests don't want anyone below 40 to participate in road-blocking.  Doesn't stop people from trying though. 

Even to preserve Hong Kong's government itself?  Wild.

Anyway what happened to the Mono who likes the Status Quo?  You seem delighted to see it get torn down around you.
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Valmy

Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2014, 10:21:48 AM
3 metre high defensive works have been completed :yeah:

Yeah!  My country's way of life and government is arbitrarily being destroyed by an irresponsible and distant tyranny!  This will end well.
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Monoriu

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2014, 09:03:03 PM
If so many get arrested that the number of people in that generation without a criminal record is lower than the number of people need for those professions than the standards will be changed.

Fat chance of that happening.  Every year, the government hires at most a few hundred graduates, out of a student population of like 50-60 thousand.  The majority of university graduates don't get jobs that require a university education.  Even if half of them are arrested, there are still plenty to choose from.  Hell, a few months ago when my team hired a temporary executive assistant, we got 700 qualified applications.  Can't care less if we get "only" half.

Monoriu

Quote from: Valmy on September 22, 2014, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
It is important to note that a criminal record is a huge deal in HK, even for something as minor as disruption of the peace.  No professional licences, no financial jobs, no government jobs, no security jobs, etc.  This is the reason why the organisers of the protests don't want anyone below 40 to participate in road-blocking.  Doesn't stop people from trying though. 

Even to preserve Hong Kong's government itself?  Wild.

Anyway what happened to the Mono who likes the Status Quo?  You seem delighted to see it get torn down around you.

Huh?  These students are trying to disrupt the status quo, hence I don't support them. 

Ed Anger

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2014, 09:04:53 PM
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2014, 09:11:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 22, 2014, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 22, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
It is important to note that a criminal record is a huge deal in HK, even for something as minor as disruption of the peace.  No professional licences, no financial jobs, no government jobs, no security jobs, etc.  This is the reason why the organisers of the protests don't want anyone below 40 to participate in road-blocking.  Doesn't stop people from trying though. 

Even to preserve Hong Kong's government itself?  Wild.

Anyway what happened to the Mono who likes the Status Quo?  You seem delighted to see it get torn down around you.

Huh?  These students are trying to disrupt the status quo, hence I don't support them.

The PRC is changing the status quo, the students are protesting that.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
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garbon

Quote from: Ed Anger on September 22, 2014, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2014, 09:04:53 PM
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Monoriu

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 22, 2014, 09:15:33 PM


The PRC is changing the status quo, the students are protesting that.

No.  HK doesn't have full democracy.  The students want to change that.  The PRC wants things to stay the way they are.