Evangelical Megachurch Pastor Preaches God Created Women As "P3n!s Homes"

[jimmy olsen]

Well now...that seems a bit...theologically unorthodox. 

Fiddled with the title because I didn't want it locking out the whole forum at some workplaces.
http://time.com/3304861/pastor-mark-driscoll-penis-homes/

Pastor Mark Driscoll Called Women 'Penis Homes'

    Libby Anne / Patheos

Sept. 8, 2014

Things have been getting worse and worse for Mark Driscoll in recent weeks. But what I want to point out for a moment is one of Driscoll's posts from 2001, when he was posting to a church message board under the name William Wallace II. I have rarely seen an evangelical man assert male superiority and prominence this directly.

    The first thing to know about your penis is, that despite the way it may see, it is not your penis. Ultimately, God created you and it is his penis. You are simply borrowing it for a while.

    While His penis is on loan you must admit that it is sort of just hanging out there very lonely as if it needed a home, sort of like a man wondering the streets looking for a house to live in. Knowing that His penis would need a home, God created a woman to be your wife and when you marry her and look down you will notice that your wife is shaped differently than you and makes a very nice home.

Yes, really. Men's penises are on loan from God, and women were created to be "homes" for men's penises. So much for any claims of men and women being "equal before God." No, men were created by God and loaned penises. Women were then created by God to be penis homes.

   

Therefore, if you are single you must remember that your penis is homeless and needs a home. But, though you may believe your hand is shaped like a home, it is not. And, though women other than your wife may look like a home, to rest there would be breaking into another man's home. And, if you look at a man it is quite obvious that what a homeless man does not need is another man without a home.

Notice that all women are portrayed as another man's penis home, whether or not they are married. This squares with what I was taught—every woman is some man's future wife, and that man owns her body even before they meet.

Paul tells us that your penis actually belongs to your wife, and once you are married she will trade you it for her home (I Corinthians 7:4), and every man knows this is a very good trade for him to make.

    With his penis, the man is supposed to learn to please his wife and learn how to be patient, self-controlled and be educated on how to keep his home happy and joyous (I Corinthians 7:3). The man should be aroused by his new home, and the wife should rejoice at seeing his penis rise to greet her (Song of Songs 5:14b).

Oh yes, a man should keep "his home" sexually satisfied. And the wife, for her part, should be sexually arousing to her husband and "rejoice" when he has an erection. This sad attempt at mutuality fails when the one party is described as a penis home.

You can view the full screenshot here.

Frankly, I'm not surprised that this is the viewpoint taken by at least some evangelical men. All to many evangelical and fundamentalist advice books treat the man as the primary creation and the woman as, well, merely his helper. The man is primary, the woman is secondary. The man was created for God's glory, the woman for man. These individuals claim that men and women are nevertheless equal before God, but that claim rings hollow when placed alongside the rest of their rhetoric.

The claim that women are uplifted and honored as caregivers and nurturers in the home also rings hollow in this context. In Driscoll's treatment, women are no more than penis homes. Women were created to satisfy men. There is nothing uplifting or honored in that. Even many evangelical and fundamentalist women, who are attracted to those beliefs in part because of the rhetorical value they place on homemaking, must surely be appalled by Driscoll's rhetoric.

In a sense, Driscoll's downfall was only a matter of time.

[CountDeMoney]

Pfft.  Everybody knows they're really penis garages.

[Tonitrus]

And sometimes they're a carport...or worse, just a driveway.

[Viking]

The Rib Woman is a Penis Home?

[celedhring]

But who can afford a mortgage these days?

[MadImmortalMan]

Heh. Really stupid way to say the standard church message of fidelity to your wife. The author doesn't seem to realize that these churches are very women-dominated places. (Marketing strategy--bring the wives and they'll bring the families.) Actual misogynists cannot be pastors. He'll lose his job for sure, assuming he gets enough heat from this.

[Viking]

Heh. Really stupid way to say the standard church message of fidelity to your wife. The author doesn't seem to realize that these churches are very women-dominated places. (Marketing strategy--bring the wives and they'll bring the families.) Actual misogynists cannot be pastors. He'll lose his job for sure, assuming he gets enough heat from this.

"this can't really be the issue sine no reasonable person would do shit like this..."

[Eddie Teach]

Paul tells us that your penis actually belongs to your wife,

ZOMG Sexism!!11


So while posting semi-anonymously to a message board 13 years ago, this guy made some remarks that were undignified and maybe even a bit loopy. The writer clearly has her own axe to grind, and primarily with Christian theology in general rather than Driscoll's in particular. And Tim thinks this is something we should read about.

[CountDeMoney]

grumbler would think "Penispalooza" would be inconsiderate.

[jimmy olsen]

I posted this for the humorous potential inherit in this and Languish has not let me down.

[mongers]

Straight away I can see this guys problem, he can spell* for shit, maybe he's Tim's Uncle?




* Alternatively the computer he writes his sermons on needs a new keyboard or maybe the key mapping is corrupted?

[Caliga]

TL;DR but where is his church located? 

[Malthus]

TL;DR but where is his church located? 

You want to 'enter' his 'church' but aren't sure of it's location. 

Caliga's Father has many mansions (John 14:2 KJV). 

[Jacob]

TL;DR but where is his church located? 

Are you looking for a new "home"?