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Shariah Police operating in German city

Started by Syt, September 07, 2014, 06:06:14 AM

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Syt

http://www.dw.de/germany-wont-tolerate-sharia-police/a-17906086

QuoteGermany won't tolerate 'Sharia police'

The German government has strongly criticized nightly patrols in the city of Wuppertal by men calling themselves "Sharia police." The 33-year-old behind the patrols claimed that their goal was only to raise attention.



Conservative members of Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition put forward a united front at the weekend against recent developments in the city of Wuppertal. Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said civilians wearing uniforms bearing the logo "Shariah police" could not simply start patrolling German streets.

The groups reportedly hovered around sites like discotheques and gambling houses, telling passers-by to refrain from gambling and alcohol. Wuppertal's police have begun pressing charges.
"Sharia law is not tolerated on German soil," de Maiziere told mass-circulation daily Bild on Saturday. "Nobody can take it upon themselves to abuse the good name of the German police."


The Salafist scene includes many German-born converts

Justice Minister Heiko Maas, meanwhile, told Bild that "the state alone" was responsible for the administration of justice in Germany. It was obvious, Maas said, that any illegal parallel system of law enforcement would not be tolerated. Christian Democrat party whip Volker Kauder was similarly emphatic in an interview to be published in this week's Welt am Sonntag newspaper.

"Under absolutely no circumstances can we tolerate self-styled 'Sharia police officers' patrolling our streets and dictating what people should or should not do," Kauder said.

Ringleader: goal was attention

The 33-year-old behind the Wuppertal patrols, former fireman Sven Lau, published a video on his website on Saturday. Lau said that a "Sharia police" never existed, and that a group of men had simply worn the mock uniforms for a few hours.

"We knew that this would raise attention," Lau said, claiming that his goal was to spark a debate about Sharia law in Germany.

Lau is a leading member of Germany's Salafist movement, advocates of a strict Sunni interpretation of political Islam. He works with a mosque in his native Mönchengladbach, not far west of Wuppertal, and used to head the fundamentalist group "Invitation to Paradise." (Einladung zum Paradies, in German.)


Lau (right in picture) is known to German security services

The central council of Muslims in Germany (ZMD) condemned the activities. "These few teen yobs do not speak in our name," chairman Ayman A. Mazyek told the Tagesspiegel am Sonntag newspaper. "These people are perverting the name of our religion. With this shrill and foolish action, they are really hurting Muslims."

Sharia law is the Arabic term for a legal system based on the Koran. Saudi Arabia and Iran are examples of countries where such a system officially applies. Wearing a veil is obligatory for women and corporal punishment such as stoning is legally tolerated. Human Rights Watch reported last month that Saudi Arabia had beheaded 19 people in just 16 days in August, for convictions on charges ranging from cannabis smuggling to "sorcery."

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First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Viking

though germany has a bad history with self organized groups sporting uniformed mono-colored shirts.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

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CountDeMoney

Oh, you wacky Germans and your uniforms.


Here, you walk out of the house with anything on it that says "Police" like that, and you'd be charged on the spot for personation of law enforcement.
Now if you want to walk into Target with your M4 with your car spray-painted with "Militia" all over it, then that's different.

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Zanza

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 08:37:31 AM
Here, you walk out of the house with anything on it that says "Police" like that, and you'd be charged on the spot for personation of law enforcement.
They didn't use the German term or something resembling a police uniform though, which would most likely have been some kind of legal issue. Wearing a t-shirt that says "Shariah Police" or "Fashion Police" or whatever is perfectly legal in Germany. 

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Zanza on September 07, 2014, 01:11:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2014, 08:37:31 AM
Here, you walk out of the house with anything on it that says "Police" like that, and you'd be charged on the spot for personation of law enforcement.
They didn't use the German term or something resembling a police uniform though, which would most likely have been some kind of legal issue. Wearing a t-shirt that says "Shariah Police" or "Fashion Police" or whatever is perfectly legal in Germany.

A reflective safety vest that is usually reserved for first responders and other emergency personnel is really pushing it though, regardless of whether they spelled it in English or Douche.   I'd lock up both their dirty asses on the spot.

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Norgy

While I am no typical moralist, refraining from alcohol and gambling, particularly when combining the two, isn't such bad advice.

These guys are just offering more food for the far right, though.
And like Seedy, I find anyone wearing a reflective vest, particularly in a group at night, impersonating first responders or authority.

citizen k

Quote from: Norgy on September 07, 2014, 04:30:08 PMI find anyone wearing a reflective vest, particularly in a group at night, ...

To be very safety conscious.


celedhring

I wear a reflective vest at night when cycling...

CountDeMoney

yeah, but its doesn't say "Bike Police" on it.