Asthmatic Man Dies After NYPD Puts Him in a Chokehold

[DontSayBanana]

Do I need to quote the definition of "homicide" for derspeiss again?

Maybe not, but you might need to for LaCroix.

Homicide != murder.  An accidental death can still be homicide if it was caused by another person.  Murder = homicide + the intent to end a life.

[DGuller]

 

[Admiral Yi]

 

[DGuller]

 

[Admiral Yi]

[KwangTiger]

Do I need to quote the definition of "homicide" for derspeiss again?

Maybe not, but you might need to for LaCroix.

Homicide != murder.  An accidental death can still be homicide if it was caused by another person.  Murder = homicide + the intent to end a life.

murder encompasses a bit more than intent to end a life - reckless indifference (e.g. chokehold) qualifies as well

[Eddie Teach]

Hi Kwang. Please tell me you're not in law school. 

[grumbler]

Do I need to quote the definition of "homicide" for derspeiss again?

Maybe not, but you might need to for LaCroix.

Homicide != murder.  An accidental death can still be homicide if it was caused by another person.  Murder = homicide + the intent to end a life.

murder encompasses a bit more than intent to end a life - reckless indifference (e.g. chokehold) qualifies as well

You might need to quote the definition of "murder" for DSB.

[CountDeMoney]

Homicide != murder.  An accidental death can still be homicide if it was caused by another person.  Murder = homicide + the intent to end a life.

murder encompasses a bit more than intent to end a life - reckless indifference (e.g. chokehold) qualifies as well

A medical examiner ruling a non-natural manner of death a homicide is a separate distinction from the court's legal definition of homicide.

[jimmy olsen]

Do I need to quote the definition of "homicide" for derspeiss again?

Maybe not, but you might need to for LaCroix.

Homicide != murder.  An accidental death can still be homicide if it was caused by another person.  Murder = homicide + the intent to end a life.

murder encompasses a bit more than intent to end a life - reckless indifference (e.g. chokehold) qualifies as well

Woah! It's been ages, welcome back man!

[11B4V]

  @ OvB......putz

For two weeks after the death of a Staten Island man in police custody, frustration simmered as the city awaited the results of the autopsy. The mayor offered sympathy. The police promised better training. But now, with the medical examiner's conclusion that the death was a homicide, by chokehold and chest compression, the investigation — and most significantly, the question of whether to prosecute any police officers — rests in the hands of the Staten Island district attorney's office.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/nyregion/after-eric-garner-chokehold-prosecuting-police-is-an-option.html?_r=0

[Martinus]

My takeaway from stories like these is:
- when dealing with U.S. police, be as unconfrontational as possible, even if you think the police are overstepping their bounds or you're in the right
- when there's someone at the door at weird hours of the night, open up, because it's likely a SWAT team who will storm the place and potentially shoot you if you don't react fast enough
- live as far away from possible felons, so that cops who forgot to check the address for a raid don't fire flashbangs into your baby's bed before they storm the place

You forgot the most important hint:
- don't be black

[garbon]

@ OvB......putz

For two weeks after the death of a Staten Island man in police custody, frustration simmered as the city awaited the results of the autopsy. The mayor offered sympathy. The police promised better training. But now, with the medical examiner's conclusion that the death was a homicide, by chokehold and chest compression, the investigation — and most significantly, the question of whether to prosecute any police officers — rests in the hands of the Staten Island district attorney's office.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/nyregion/after-eric-garner-chokehold-prosecuting-police-is-an-option.html?_r=0

Yeah most of us knew this "news" 2 weeks ago.

[Martinus]

Do I need to quote the definition of "homicide" for derspeiss again?

Maybe not, but you might need to for LaCroix.

Homicide != murder.  An accidental death can still be homicide if it was caused by another person.  Murder = homicide + the intent to end a life.

murder encompasses a bit more than intent to end a life - reckless indifference (e.g. chokehold) qualifies as well

recklessness ("I don't think I can kill someone this way but I should know it" or "I realise that normally I can kill someone this way but shouldn't happen this time") would not in itself be considered an intent (so would count as homicide) unless you are talking about dolus eventualis ("I realise I can kill someone this way but I don't care either way").