The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[derspiess]

Both suspects in custody

It is better the times we can take these shooters alive. It will be interesting to learn who they are and what exactly happened.

I prefer them being taken dead.  We'll figure out everything anyway without the sensational news coverage, trial, etc.

[CountDeMoney]

Stick with that on this incident and you be a fool.

Hey now...when everybody was screaming about Oh Noes Teh Mooselimb Terrerists in Orlando, I was the first to call it for what it was, the pilot episode of When Fags Attack!.

[11B4V]

Fox is playing raw vid of a shooter on the ground.

Fox News screwed up the video.  But when they got to the early part you see one of the gunmen assaulting the cop, with the cop going down

Yea.

[LaCroix]

  NBC's stream is focused on a black mercedes. nothing else, other than camo guy.

are they slow?

[11B4V]

Stick with that on this incident and you be a fool.

Hey now...when everybody was screaming about Oh Noes Teh Mooselimb Terrerists in Orlando, I was the first to call it for what it was, the pilot episode of When Fags Attack!.

[11B4V]

Both suspects in custody

It is better the times we can take these shooters alive. It will be interesting to learn who they are and what exactly happened.

I prefer them being taken dead.  We'll figure out everything anyway without the sensational news coverage, trial, etc.

No you want them alive. Better for the cops. This is race shit.

[Admiral Yi]

Well shit.

[LaCroix]

https://twitter.com/seguifox13/status/751278909895745537
(warning, this video shows a cop getting shot probably dead)

seems like pretty advanced moves by the shooter

[11B4V]

Wtf they are still negotiating with a suspect at the parking garage.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Eh, not necessarily advanced. Shooter(s) probably are ex-military or have done a lot of private tactical training (although it's hard to find any that isn't garbage, but it is out there.) Shooter had initiative and finished, the cop was ill positioned and probably unaware of his surroundings fully. While more and more training is the norm these days (versus way back in the past when you had Officer Columbo types who couldn't even hit the broad side of a barn with their service weapon) the rule is still that most cops aren't really paramilitary badasses. The day to day job just isn't that, and it's hard for departments to justify the kind of training that would be needed to get every regular patrol cop in the department serious tactical training considering most of them might never use it in their entire careers.

[derspiess]

Otto, the speculation was that this was some very non-front line type cop who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. 

[OttoVonBismarck]

I'm assuming the first responding police officers were the guys working the protest, and thus were probably regular patrol cops. Some of which may have had advanced tactical training, but it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them did not.

[Phillip V]

I'm assuming the first responding police officers were the guys working the protest, and thus were probably regular patrol cops. Some of which may have had advanced tactical training, but it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them did not.

One interview I watched mentioned that to cover these large events, they bring in reserve/volunteer/retired cops.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Lol, if they bring in reserves those guys are barely po-po at all. More like Dwight Schrute wannabes.

[derspiess]

No you want them alive. Better for the cops. This is race shit.

And get him on the cover of Rolling Stone a la Joker Tsarnaev?  Nah, I prefer dead.