The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[Razgovory]

Didn't know the thing about how little training our cops get compared to those in Europe.

[MadImmortalMan]

It seems like the most important thing they would need to know--how to de-escalate a violent situation--they spend less than one day on that in the police academy.

I learned more about it watching Andy Griffith.

[11B4V]

It seems like the most important thing they would need to know--how to de-escalate a violent situation--they spend less than one day on that in the police academy.

You can only teach so much. If the cop has a fucked attitude, badge heavy, socially retarded, God complex, arrogant, lack of respect for the populace...etc, no amount of training will fix it. He just doesn't need to be a cop. They do have their uses, however.

[Tonitrus]

Back when I was around 18, and had my career sights on being a police officer, I attended a "community police academy" for my hometown (basically a night per week over several weeks, teaching about they do policing...and fun stuff like getting pepper sprayed).  Part of that program was going on a ride along...distinctly memorable experience. 

The officer I rode with essentially cursed at every person/vehicle that so much as slightly crossed his path (e.g., if he had to slow down for someone in a crosswalk, he spouted a stream of obscenties...not directly to the person, just to himself/the universe), road-raged/pursued...but did not pull over someone on the freeway he apparently took a momentary dislike to.  And while doing a blood run (which seemed to take nearly an hour at the local blood bank)...spent most of that time hitting on the nurse/receptionist there, while I waited around bored out of my mind.

The ride-along concluded with him asking me "hey, please don't tell anyone about all this, ok?" 

[Eddie Teach]

Moral of the Story: Tonitrus will only keep your secrets for a maximum of 20 years.

[Tonitrus]

Moral of the Story: Tonitrus will only keep your secrets for a maximum of 20 years.

Which means he is probably retired by now anyway.   

[CountDeMoney]

Didn't know the thing about how little training our cops get compared to those in Europe.

Maybe there's an occasional Maryberry R.F.D. out there that runs a correspondence course for 10 weeks at its own liability peril, but in the age of accreditation the majority of academies require substantially more time, and can depend on mandatory state requirements, CALEA certification and the type of agency.

Overall, an estimated 57,000 recruits entered basic training programs during 2005. On average these programs included 761 hours of classroom training. A third of academies had an additional mandatory field training component with an average length of 453 hours.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/slleta06.pdf

[CountDeMoney]

It seems like the most important thing they would need to know--how to de-escalate a violent situation--they spend less than one day on that in the police academy.

You can only teach so much. If the cop has a fucked attitude, badge heavy, socially retarded, God complex, arrogant, lack of respect for the populace...etc, no amount of training will fix it. He just doesn't need to be a cop. They do have their uses, however.

That's hiring and supervision, the other 2/3rds of the problem.

[CountDeMoney]

Back when I was around 18, and had my career sights on being a police officer, I attended a "community police academy" for my hometown (basically a night per week over several weeks, teaching about they do policing...and fun stuff like getting pepper sprayed).  Part of that program was going on a ride along...distinctly memorable experience. 

The officer I rode with essentially cursed at every person/vehicle that so much as slightly crossed his path (e.g., if he had to slow down for someone in a crosswalk, he spouted a stream of obscenties...not directly to the person, just to himself/the universe), road-raged/pursued...but did not pull over someone on the freeway he apparently took a momentary dislike to.  And while doing a blood run (which seemed to take nearly an hour at the local blood bank)...spent most of that time hitting on the nurse/receptionist there, while I waited around bored out of my mind.

The ride-along concluded with him asking me "hey, please don't tell anyone about all this, ok?" 

Heh; IN MY DAY the only officers that were allowed to participate in the Ride-Along program were also in the FTO program. 

[11B4V]

It seems like the most important thing they would need to know--how to de-escalate a violent situation--they spend less than one day on that in the police academy.

You can only teach so much. If the cop has a fucked attitude, badge heavy, socially retarded, God complex, arrogant, lack of respect for the populace...etc, no amount of training will fix it. He just doesn't need to be a cop. They do have their uses, however.

That's hiring and supervision, the other 2/3rds of the problem.

Disagree. Hiring/supervision/union The other 3/4 of the problem.

[CountDeMoney]

Disagree. Hiring/supervision/union The other 3/4 of the problem.

Considering how joining the union is a condition of employment IN REAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS, it would fall under hiring, and therefore we're back at 2/3rds. 

You may now fuck your own face.

[11B4V]

Disagree. Hiring/supervision/union The other 3/4 of the problem.

Considering how joining the union is a condition of employment IN REAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS, it would fall under hiring, and therefore we're back at 2/3rds. 

You may now fuck your own face.

Still disagree
Post entry closed shop eh? Hopefully that will get crushed. So fuck a duck

Advantage Fed's .

[MadImmortalMan]

Moral of the Story: Tonitrus will only keep your secrets for a maximum of 20 years.

Shit. I got like fifteen left. 

[Eddie Teach]

Interesting. Did you tell him what happened in Thailand?

[grumbler]

You can only teach so much. If the cop has a fucked attitude, badge heavy, socially retarded, God complex, arrogant, lack of respect for the populace...etc, no amount of training will fix it. He just doesn't need to be a cop. They do have their uses, however.

As an 11B4V?