The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

Started by Syt, August 11, 2014, 04:09:04 AM

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Martinus

Quote from: Kleves on August 26, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
Quote from: Liep on August 26, 2015, 10:33:11 AM
Former employee it seems:

"We believe it was a disgruntled employee who fired at the TV crew," Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) said Wednesday morning in an online Q&A session
A gay black man who felt that he was discriminated against. That would have been near the bottom of my list of suspects.  :hmm:

Maybe he was versatile.

Martinus

Quote from: mongers on August 26, 2015, 12:18:09 PM
Wow.

And I don't approve of the BBC showing what amounts to 'death porn';did we really need to see any of the tv item or the shooters video up to and including the sound of the first shot? 

I'd have preferred to seen it treated like an islamic state atrocity, where just one photo/frame is show during the tv coverage.

Not only that, he filmed it vertically. This atrocity has to stop - people need to learn how to use their iPhones as cameras.

Syt

Quote from: Kleves on August 26, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
Quote from: Liep on August 26, 2015, 10:33:11 AM
Former employee it seems:

"We believe it was a disgruntled employee who fired at the TV crew," Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) said Wednesday morning in an online Q&A session
A gay black man who felt that he was discriminated against. That would have been near the bottom of my list of suspects.  :hmm:

Are you saying only angry white men can go on shooting rampages? That's discriminating! Check your privilege!
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Syt

heute, a free paper distributed on Vienna's subway lines (and closely linked to the tabloid Krone) chose this for today's cover:

"Murder live on TV!"



Bottom left says, "Not a video game, but the attack filmed from the shooter's view."

:bleeding:
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Martinus

Quote from: Syt on August 27, 2015, 12:51:11 AM
Quote from: Kleves on August 26, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
Quote from: Liep on August 26, 2015, 10:33:11 AM
Former employee it seems:

"We believe it was a disgruntled employee who fired at the TV crew," Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) said Wednesday morning in an online Q&A session
A gay black man who felt that he was discriminated against. That would have been near the bottom of my list of suspects.  :hmm:

Are you saying only angry white men can go on shooting rampages? That's discriminating! Check your privilege!

In fact, given the typical mental state, it's a wonder so few gay men go on shooting rampages. :P

derspiess

Quote from: Martinus on August 27, 2015, 12:19:00 AM
Not only that, he filmed it vertically. This atrocity has to stop - people need to learn how to use their iPhones as cameras.

No shit.  I've tried to get my wife to cut that out for years now.
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DGuller

Have you ever tried to shoot someone while holding the iPhone horizontally?

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

jimmy olsen

Daily News had a similar page Syt, pretty fucked up in my opinion.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/27/new_york_daily_news_shooting_cover_why_the_paper_s_front_page_crosses_the.html
QuoteWhy That Daily News Cover Crosses the Line

By Leon Neyfakh

One day after a gunman in Virginia shot and killed two TV journalists in the middle of an early morning live broadcast, the media is still wrestling with how to cover the incident, with journalists asking themselves whether there is news value to showing their audiences video footage of the incident.

In the midst of that soul-searching, editors at the New York Daily News made a call that is being roundly condemned as a craven and unforgivable play for attention and sales. Having apparently decided to package the news in the most graphic and disturbing way possible, the editors of the Daily News published a front page composed of three side-by-side stills, each meticulously pulled from a first-person video of the murders that was shot and posted on Facebook yesterday by the gunman himself.

Each of the three images is focused on a distinctly horrifying moment of the attack. In the first, Alison Parker can be seen conducting an interview, smiling brightly and plainly unaware of the gun, which we can see in the image, pointed directly at her at point blank range. The second shows the gun firing, its muzzle alight, while the shooter aims it directly at Parker's torso. In the third and final image, we see Parker's reaction to what is taking place, turning toward her assailant with her face contorted in abject terror and her body instinctively assuming a defensive stance.

Publishing these images—and presenting them in the form of a comic strip, no less—was a tasteless and cynical decision on the part of the Daily News. But it's worth examining why the paper's cover has provoked such a powerful reaction of disgust, including from those of us who were ambivalent or conflicted yesterday about whether publishing the available footage amounted to shielding readers from the gruesome reality of what happened.

Maybe the most important fact about these images is that they show the murder being committed from the murderer's point of view, bringing to mind a screenshot from a first-person shooter video game, and forcing anyone who happens to pass a newsstand today to imagine themselves in the killer's position. And while it's not quite right to say that in doing so, the Daily News was inviting people to identify with Vester Flanagan, the fact is that anyone who sees this cover will have no choice but to assume his perspective. That includes children, which is one reason some readers are outraged. But perhaps more consequentially, it could also include people with revenge fantasies similar to the one that apparently motivated Flanagan—disturbed individuals who could conceivably be stimulated and catalyzed by the experience of imagining themselves in his shoes.     

By isolating the seconds before, during, and after Flanagan pulls the trigger, the Daily News is indulging in—and prompting others to indulge in—a morbid fascination with what it's like to kill someone. It plays on the same journalistic instinct that arguably led the New York Post, in 2012, to publish an image of a doomed man who had fallen onto the subway tracks staring at the headlights of an oncoming train—a deviant and ugly spin on the widespread, and usually innocuous, practice of creating content that offers "relatability." And while there is an argument to be made that the country would be better off if more people understood, on a visceral level, the bottomless tragedy that accompanies each and every gun death, attracting readers by offering them access to that feeling where you sneak up on an unsuspecting human being and take her life is not a bad place to draw a line.   
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Martinus

Am I the only one who is utterly baffled by the repeated calls and voices that media have crossed the line on the coverage of one issue or another? I mean, by now, I thought noone should have any doubts that journalists are scum who would do anything for sales/ratings, so every time a tragedy happens, the question is not whether someone inevitably publishes disturbing, tasteless images of it but who does it - so there may be a round of condemnation from the rest of these despicable hypocrites, followed by an insincere apology.

garbon

I'm glad we have slate ready to call out the venerable New York daily news.
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Razgovory

I have no idea why Tim keeps posting articles from there.
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garbon

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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Razgovory on August 28, 2015, 01:30:53 AM
I have no idea why Tim keeps posting articles from there.
Because I honestly like the site, duh.

I don't care what you folks think about it.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.