The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

Started by Syt, August 11, 2014, 04:09:04 AM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
Wait 60 witnesses?  That must have been one crowded street.

They allowed other witnesses, such as Wilson's supervisor, to tell the grand jury what a great cop he is.  You know, stuff that happens during a trial, not a grand jury.

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derspiess

Burning buildings and cop cars keep things nice & toasty.
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Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on November 25, 2014, 12:14:50 PM
Burning buildings and cop cars keep things nice & toasty.

It's a good thing those weren't armored vehicles.  That might have provoked people into doing something rash.
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Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2014, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 25, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
Well one cannot say they were not thorough.

That's not usually the goal.

It is when the stakes for getting it right are so high.

That is what petit (trial) juries are usually used for.

I do get your point and would be inclined to agree if the principle were more generally applied rather than reserved for very particular application.
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Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on November 25, 2014, 12:34:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 25, 2014, 12:14:50 PM
Burning buildings and cop cars keep things nice & toasty.

It's a good thing those weren't armored vehicles.  That might have provoked people into doing something rash.

This situation is different and you know it.  This was a planned riot, the rabble was all there ready to rock.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2014, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 25, 2014, 12:34:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 25, 2014, 12:14:50 PM
Burning buildings and cop cars keep things nice & toasty.

It's a good thing those weren't armored vehicles.  That might have provoked people into doing something rash.

This situation is different and you know it.  This was a planned riot, the rabble was all there ready to rock.

No.  It's not.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 25, 2014, 11:51:56 AM
Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
Wait 60 witnesses?  That must have been one crowded street.

They allowed other witnesses, such as Wilson's supervisor, to tell the grand jury what a great cop he is.  You know, stuff that happens during a trial, not a grand jury.

What the hell?  What does that have to do with whether or not there was enough evidence to take him to trial?  Ok so maybe it was a highly unorthodox Grand Jury hearing.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on November 25, 2014, 12:56:54 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2014, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 25, 2014, 12:34:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 25, 2014, 12:14:50 PM
Burning buildings and cop cars keep things nice & toasty.

It's a good thing those weren't armored vehicles.  That might have provoked people into doing something rash.

This situation is different and you know it.  This was a planned riot, the rabble was all there ready to rock.

No.  It's not.

Yes.  It is.  This thing has been all over social media for months.  These are the usual clowns who show up at every G-8 summit or whatever.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 25, 2014, 12:42:13 PM
I do get your point and would be inclined to agree if the principle were more generally applied rather than reserved for very particular application.

Indeed.  It is a pity we have to wait until people are burning down cities to understand why Police shooting people dead is destabilizing to law and order and needs to be seriously addressed.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."