The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[Eddie Teach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wzAGE4quWU 

[CountDeMoney]

I know Seedy knows what the 21' rule is. However you still need to link that the suspect has Opportunity, Capability, and Intent to employ deadly force. Just because the chap has a knife doesnt mean you automatically shoot him.

It's all context.  We had a guy once with one of those butcher cleaver knives, the big square ones, in a 10' by 10' quiet room.  One way in, one way out.  Didn't have to shoot him.  Rushed him with a shitload of mattresses.   His intent wasn't to carve up some cops, his intent was to harm himself.

As far as I'm concerned, the video that prompted this entire discussion, they didn't have to shoot him.  At that particular moment, at least.

Might help explain more of the mind set.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2007/10/rethinking-the-21-foot-rule.aspx

LOL, PoliceMag.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/vehicles/news/2011/07/01/maryland-transportation-authority-police-lose-take-home-vehicles.aspx


Worked so fucking hard on that program.   

[Valmy]

It's what negroes do.  If it's not our white women, it's our guns.

Keep on white knighting, white knight.  I shudder to think how they'd get along without you.

White Knighting?  Really?  Going for sociopathic douchebag shit now?  Of course you cheer on government officials shooting US citizens unnecessarily despite wanting the government to leave people alone.  How you work out those mental gymnastics is beyond me. 

[garbon]

It's what negroes do.  If it's not our white women, it's our guns.

Keep on white knighting, white knight.  I shudder to think how they'd get along without you.

White Knighting?  Really?  Going for sociopathic douchebag shit now?  Of course you cheer on government officials shooting US citizens unnecessarily despite wanting the government to leave people alone.  How you work out those mental gymnastics is beyond me. 

Pretty easy if you don't think black people are people.

[Razgovory]

Officer was shot tonight.  If only he backed up more.

[Valmy]

Officer was shot tonight.  If only he backed up more.

What is wrong with you?  In none of the situations we talked about did the person have a gun.

[CountDeMoney]

Sometimes Raz gets overstimulated and lashes out wildly.  Saw a lot of that at the animal shelter.

[Razgovory]

Officer was shot tonight.  If only he backed up more.

What is wrong with you?  In none of the situations we talked about did the person have a gun.

He did have a weapon.  Therefore the police should have backed up.  It's the police's fault what with the militarization and such.

[Syt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs

Guy gets shot because he moves too fast in getting his license. (0:40)

Good news: he survives.

[garbon]

Sometimes Raz gets overstimulated and lashes out wildly.  Saw a lot of that at the animal shelter.

[grumbler]

Officer was shot tonight.  If only he backed up more.

What is wrong with you?  In none of the situations we talked about did the person have a gun.

After all the years you and he have been here, you have to ask what is wrong with him?

When you engage with him after he says stupid stuff like this, you just encourage him to say more stupid stuff.

One option is to refuse to engage him when he says stupid stuff.  The better option is not to engage him no matter what he says.   

[CountDeMoney]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs

Guy gets shot because he moves too fast in getting his license. (0:40)

Good news: he survives.

Better news:  cop gets fired and criminally charged. 
Had his bail review last week: $75,000. 
Former Officer of the Year for the South Carolina State Police.  Future convict.

[Syt]

I hear he pleads not guilty.

[CountDeMoney]

I hear he pleads not guilty.

He can plead all he wants, he's going to go to jail. 

"Why'd you shoot me?"
"You dove headfirst into your car."  Sorry, not a reason to use lethal force, dumbass.

Also, notice how the suspect victim actually apologizes to the officer that shot him, refers to him as "sir", etc.?

Maybe it'll help dispel the derspiessian notion that every black man is some sort of menacing Mandingo copkillin' nigger that needs to be shot  in an encounter with police because he's about to kick off this Nat Turner party and start some murder up in this motherfucker on the way to the convenience store to rape some white women.

But it won't.

[CountDeMoney]

It's not a shooting, but here's a clip from my old crew that's been on all the news lately:

http://youtu.be/kP_TtBPpIRM

Greenmount and North, LOL, good times.

Now, as bad as the black officer acts in laying all those haymakers, neither of the two white officers did anything during or after:  Internal Affairs didn't know about this incident until the guy's lawyers forwarded this video to them, and while they began an investigation, they didn't bring it to the Commissioner's attention--until it hit the evening news.

And you'll see one white officer--the one with the black hair--has orange tabs on his epaulettes: they have little sergeant pins on them, and that means he's the OD;  since there was no sergeant on duty in that sector that evening, he was the one in charge that night.  And didn't do a goddamned thing about it.

And yet people still ask me why I quit. Officers like that will get you fired, hurt or worse.  Fuck that.