The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

Started by Syt, August 11, 2014, 04:09:04 AM

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Zoupa



Look at that slogan. If you know your Spanish Civil War, you'll recognize "Uno de los nuestros vale por todos los vuestros" made famous by the falangists.

They're not even hiding it anymore.

bogh

I find the discussion on whether she was complying, whether she was a protestor, what went before etc to be fairly pointless.

None of that should carry the penalty of point blank execution. Whether it's legal or not, it's clearly disproportionate, amoral, incompetent and so very unnecessary. Nothing necessitates this, nothing is achieved by it, except human tragedy.

grumbler

Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 02:52:43 AM

Look at that slogan. If you know your Spanish Civil War, you'll recognize "Uno de los nuestros vale por todos los vuestros" made famous by the falangists.

They're not even hiding it anymore.

That is so outrageous that I had to double check to ensure that it wasn't photoshopped.  It wasn't.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

grumbler

The location of the bullet hole in the windshield, from the first shot fired, indicates pretty clearly that the shot was not fired from in front of the vehicle.

The videos also show that the ICE agent started drawing his gun before the vehicle had even started moving.  If the agent had time to draw his gun, he had time to move away from the front of the vehicle (where no professional law enforcement officer would ever place himself.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Tamas

Quote from: bogh on Today at 06:01:46 AMI find the discussion on whether she was complying, whether she was a protestor, what went before etc to be fairly pointless.

None of that should carry the penalty of point blank execution. Whether it's legal or not, it's clearly disproportionate, amoral, incompetent and so very unnecessary. Nothing necessitates this, nothing is achieved by it, except human tragedy.

Indeed. There is no scenario discussed where the correct, or, I hope, even legal, answer is to shoot her in the head several times at point blank range.