The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[Valmy]

Well that is just assualt. It isn't real violence until something gets looted or somebody gets killed.

[Syt]

Well that is just assualt. It isn't real violence until something gets looted or somebody gets killed by left wingers or blacks.

FYP

[Oexmelin]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Of course he does. He just happens to share their views, is all.

[DGuller]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not at all sure about that.

[merithyn]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not at all sure about that.

You guys know that I live in Portland, yes? This is not this group's first foray into public nuisance area.

Are you aware that the guy that killed the two people on the train in 2017 was associated with them? In fact, the guy that was killed on Saturday is on record defending the train killer.

But what the fuck ever. Yeah. I'm sure it's all going to be great. What do I know?

[HVC]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not at all sure about that.

You guys know that I live in Portland, yes? This is not this group's first foray into public nuisance area.

Are you aware that the guy that killed the two people on the train in 2017 was associated with them? In fact, the guy that was killed on Saturday is on record defending the train killer.

But what the fuck ever. Yeah. I'm sure it's all going to be great. What do I know?

Uhm, pretty sure the Dguller is saying little Neo (Nazi) knows what he's saying is wrong to annoy people, not that you're wrong.

[The Brain]

DG suggested that AD is affiliated with Patriot Prayer.

[DGuller]

The Brain is correct, not that it ever needs to be said.

[Valmy]

AD doesn't strike me as the religious type. He probably would prefer a more demonic right wing militia.

[Maximus]

AD doesn't strike me as the religious type. He probably would prefer a more demonic right wing militia.

It doesn't say who they're praying to.

[Barrister]

So...

I have a sex assault trial tomorrow.  Amidst all the other things I do to get ready, I email my officers about times to come to court.  But funny enough, the email to my lead officer bounces.  I go to the EPS Crown Liaison office located inside our office, they search his name but are puzzled - he's still with the force but they have no contact info for him.

Based on which thread this is you can guess what's happened - yup he's been charged with assault for use of excessive force and suspended without pay.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-police-commission-upholds-suspension-1.5690950

Technically he is under subpoena, and this is a major file.  We'll see what happens...

[HisMajestyBOB]

I'm not a law talking guy, but I guess you have a deposition or statement you can use?

[Barrister]

I'm not a law talking guy, but I guess you have a deposition or statement you can use?

I have his notes and report (plus the video of the interview he did with the Accused), but no I can't use them - I need a live body.

[merithyn]

Another black man shot in the back. This one was stopped for a bicycle violation.

Oh, he had a gun, but he had dropped it to the ground. That's why they shot him. Because he dropped the gun to the ground and they saw it, so they believed that their lives were in danger.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-usa-los-angeles/los-angeles-police-fatally-shoot-black-man-after-suspected-bike-violation-idUSKBN25S606

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A Black cyclist was fatally shot by Los Angeles County police, the latest instance of police killing a Black man, as the county Sheriff's Department and a lawyer representing the man's family gave diverging accounts of the shooting on Tuesday.

The cyclist, 29-year-old Dijon Kizzee, was shot more than 20 times in the back on Monday afternoon after two sheriff's deputies tried to stop him for a bicycle code violation, said Benjamin Crump, who said he is representing Kizzee's family.

The Los Angeles Sheriff's Department said Kizzee, whose identity was confirmed by the county medical examiner-coroner, was shot fewer than 20 times after dropping a handgun he had been carrying and punching one of the deputies.

The killing renewed protests in the city by demonstrators angered at deadly violence against Black people by police. Such protests have become a near daily occurrence around the country after George Floyd, a Black man, was killed by a white Minneapolis police officer in May.

"You don't kill any race but us, and it don't make any sense," Fletcher Fair, Dijon Kizzee's aunt, told reporters at the site of the shooting on Tuesday where activists called for an independent investigation by California's attorney general. "Why us?"

Protests also continued in Kenosha, Wisconsin, over a white police officer's shooting of Jacob Blake, a Black man, seven times in the back, leaving him paralyzed, and the unrest has become a major issue ahead of November's presidential election.

President Donald Trump, a Republican, arrived in Kenosha on Tuesday as he seeks to rally his base of white supporters by defending police against criticism of brutality.

Kizzee was riding his bike on Monday afternoon in Los Angeles County's Westmont neighborhood when two sheriff's deputies who had been driving by tried to stop him.

Kizzee abandoned his bike and ran for a block with the deputies in pursuit, Brandon Dean, a sheriff's department spokesman, told reporters on Monday evening. Kizzee then punched one of the deputies in the face, dropping a bundle of clothing he was carrying, the department said.

The deputies said a semi-automatic handgun was in the dropped bundle, and both of them began shooting Kizzee, the department said.

Dean said he did not know what part of the bicycle code Kizzee was suspected to have violated or how many times the deputies shot him, other than saying it was fewer than 20. His office declined to answer questions about the shooting and the status of the two deputies on Tuesday.

The county coroner was due to conduct an autopsy on Kizzee on Tuesday.

[chipwich]

Another black man shot in the back. This one was stopped for a bicycle violation.

Oh, he had a gun, but he had dropped it to the ground. That's why they shot him. Because he dropped the gun to the ground and they saw it, so they believed that their lives were in danger.

"he had dropped it to the ground" is enormously deceptive. If fell DURING A FISTFIGHT WITH THE COPS.