The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

Started by Syt, August 11, 2014, 04:09:04 AM

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derspiess

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August 30, 2020, 06:43:36 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 30, 2020, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 30, 2020, 05:26:45 PM
So, you're hinting that he should have been shot.
I'm hinting that the guy is, sorry, was a piece of trash and, while I don't think he deserved to die, I won't be mourning him.

That's what I hear people on the right saying about one of the two guys that got killed in Kenosha.
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Zoupa

#6151
August 30, 2020, 07:36:59 PM
Oh. That's what you hear eh?

Razgovory

#6152
August 30, 2020, 08:42:03 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 30, 2020, 07:36:59 PM
Oh. That's what you hear eh?


Well, yeah.  I mean one of the guys was Jewish. Globalist.
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derspiess

#6153
August 30, 2020, 09:10:57 PM
No, they're saying he was a convicted sex offender.
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grumbler

#6154
August 30, 2020, 09:18:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 30, 2020, 09:10:57 PM
No, they're saying he was a convicted sex offender.

And do you listen to what "they're" saying?  Are "they" offering any proof?  Do "they" even name the victim to whom "they" refer? 
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derspiess

#6155
August 30, 2020, 09:32:07 PM
The Rosenbaum guy. Yes, there's proof. And chillax.
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The Minsky Moment

#6156
August 30, 2020, 11:50:29 PM
He certainly seems to have spent quite a lot of time in prison. Of course the shooter would not be aware of the criminal histories of any of his victims.
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Valmy

#6157
August 31, 2020, 12:05:00 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 30, 2020, 11:50:29 PM
He certainly seems to have spent quite a lot of time in prison. Of course the shooter would not be aware of the criminal histories of any of his victims.

And even if he did, unless a court sentences a man to death it is still illegal to kill them.
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#6158
August 31, 2020, 12:09:12 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 30, 2020, 09:32:07 PM
The Rosenbaum guy. Yes, there's proof. And chillax.

Why are you "conservatives" always so concerned about the victims' bad juju? Trayvon Martin had traces of marijuana in his system, dID yOu kNoW tHat????

Good thing we have our local Tucker Carlson on hand to tell us what "they" are saying.

Richard Hakluyt

#6159
August 31, 2020, 12:38:09 AM
Lots of people are bad and all are flawed which is why we have a criminal justice system; you will have civil war if justifying vigilantism because people are drug offenders or racist shitheads becomes  a mainstream view.

bogh

#6160
August 31, 2020, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 31, 2020, 12:09:12 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 30, 2020, 09:32:07 PM
The Rosenbaum guy. Yes, there's proof. And chillax.

Why are you "conservatives" always so concerned about the victims' bad juju? Trayvon Martin had traces of marijuana in his system, dID yOu kNoW tHat????

Good thing we have our local Tucker Carlson on hand to tell us what "they" are saying.

I think derspiess was making the point that the speculation about the PP guy being a POS reminded him of the right wing speculation about the Kenosha guys - in both instances it isn't really relevant to the case itself.

Syt

#6161
August 31, 2020, 01:00:12 AM
Considering the large number of people with criminal records in the US, I don't think it's insightful to focus on prior convictions of any of the victims in these shootings:

From 2015:

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/just-facts-many-americans-have-criminal-records-college-diplomas

QuoteThe number of Americans with a criminal history has risen sharply over the past three decades. Today, nearly one-third of the adult working age population has a criminal record. In fact, so many Americans have a criminal record that counting them all is nearly impossible.
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The Brain

#6162
August 31, 2020, 02:14:55 AM
I always unthinkingly thought that having a "criminal record" meant that you had been convicted of a crime. I didn't know that it included arrests and stuff. Nice. :)
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derspiess

#6163
August 31, 2020, 07:58:46 AM
Quote from: bogh on August 31, 2020, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 31, 2020, 12:09:12 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 30, 2020, 09:32:07 PM
The Rosenbaum guy. Yes, there's proof. And chillax.

Why are you "conservatives" always so concerned about the victims' bad juju? Trayvon Martin had traces of marijuana in his system, dID yOu kNoW tHat????

Good thing we have our local Tucker Carlson on hand to tell us what "they" are saying.

I think derspiess was making the point that the speculation about the PP guy being a POS reminded him of the right wing speculation about the Kenosha guys - in both instances it isn't really relevant to the case itself.

Correct.
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Barrister

#6164
August 31, 2020, 10:25:15 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 31, 2020, 02:14:55 AM
I always unthinkingly thought that having a "criminal record" meant that you had been convicted of a crime. I didn't know that it included arrests and stuff. Nice. :)

A criminal record is just that - a record of convictions.

Now, records are also kept of "arrests and stuff", and I know I can access all of that information (records of charges not resulting in convictions is trivial, records of arrests not leading to charges difficult but not impossible) but no one would call that a criminal record.
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