The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[merithyn]

Saw a video of a dude with an AR that was getting rushed by rioters, almost like a zombie movie.  They had him on the ground and one rioter went to jump kick him.  Looks like he was a bit panicky with the shots he got off, but I guess his own life was on the line at that point.  Looked like he had been trying to get away from them.

Ugly situation

Or at least felt like his life was on the line, which is probable in a situation like that.

The whole situation is disastrous. Decades of unaddressed problems coming home to roost.

When a guy is trying to stomp your head into the pavement, I think it's safe to say your life is on the line.

And honestly, we've seen what happens in those situations. People have died, or been grievously injured.

I wonder if this will push the militia away, or make them come out in force now. If they do, it's going to get uglier before it gets better.

[DGuller]

But what if your life is on the line because you shot someone in the head moments before?

[merithyn]

But what if your life is on the line because you shot someone in the head moments before?

Is that what happened? I haven't read the reports.

[Tamas]

It seems that white people really have no idea how to just take a fucking back seat and let others drive the bus. I don't even know how to apologize anymore.

Why would you have to apologise? If we went around apologising for everyone of our skin colour doing something bad we would have time for nothing else, and that includes all possible skin colours.

[DGuller]

But what if your life is on the line because you shot someone in the head moments before?

Is that what happened? I haven't read the reports.

You can't be 100% sure so soon after the incident, especially given the lack of neutral observers, but from what I understand, he shot a guy in the head in the car dealership.  Afterwards the crowd gave chase to catch the shooter, and that's where that footage with him falling and shooting starts.  One of the dead was already shot in the head before the camera starts rolling.

[merithyn]

There is really no point in apologizing on behalf of other people who aren't sorry.

It seems that white people really have no idea how to just take a fucking back seat and let others drive the bus. I don't even know how to apologize anymore.

Why would you have to apologise? If we went around apologising for everyone of our skin colour doing something bad we would have time for nothing else, and that includes all possible skin colours.

I have a number of friends of color who are directly involved with the protests. They talk about the problems they're facing, and I feel obligated to apologize for the idiots of my race who are making a mess of things. Maybe I shouldn't, but it feels like the right thing to do under the circumstances.

[DGuller]

A whole other angle to this story is open complicity of police with the militia.  It scares me that they're not afraid to be open like that.

[derspiess]

It seems that white people really have no idea how to just take a fucking back seat and let others drive the bus. I don't even know how to apologize anymore.

Why would you have to apologise? If we went around apologising for everyone of our skin colour doing something bad we would have time for nothing else, and that includes all possible skin colours.

Whiteness seems to be the new original sin.

[Razgovory]

Saw a video of a dude with an AR that was getting rushed by rioters, almost like a zombie movie.  They had him on the ground and one rioter went to jump kick him.  Looks like he was a bit panicky with the shots he got off, but I guess his own life was on the line at that point.  Looked like he had been trying to get away from them.

Ugly situation

If he was trying to get away from them why did he show up with a rifle?

[Valmy]

I have a number of friends of color who are directly involved with the protests. They talk about the problems they're facing, and I feel obligated to apologize for the idiots of my race who are making a mess of things. Maybe I shouldn't, but it feels like the right thing to do under the circumstances.

I do to and I understand the desire to apologize but remember you really have no ability to apologize on behalf of people who are probably not sorry. Being sympathetic is another thing. We are all sorry for these issues inflicting these communities, but that is different from apologizing.

[merithyn]

It seems that white people really have no idea how to just take a fucking back seat and let others drive the bus. I don't even know how to apologize anymore.

Why would you have to apologise? If we went around apologising for everyone of our skin colour doing something bad we would have time for nothing else, and that includes all possible skin colours.

Whiteness seems to be the new original sin.

That's bullshit. But whatever.

[Valmy]

Whiteness seems to be the new original sin.

I rather think it is more like identifying that way so somehow feeling part of a group of people just because they kind of look like you. I think we all do it to some extent, even when we rationally know that is misplaced.

[derspiess]

Saw a video of a dude with an AR that was getting rushed by rioters, almost like a zombie movie.  They had him on the ground and one rioter went to jump kick him.  Looks like he was a bit panicky with the shots he got off, but I guess his own life was on the line at that point.  Looked like he had been trying to get away from them.

Ugly situation

If he was trying to get away from them why did he show up with a rifle?

Because they were chasing him and trying to get his rifle?

[merithyn]

Whiteness seems to be the new original sin.

I rather think it is more like identifying that way so somehow feeling part of a group of people just because they kind of look like you. I think we all do it to some extent, even when we rationally know that is misplaced.

It's more that whiteness is no longer being allowed to be the default, and that's insulting to many whites.

[merithyn]

Saw a video of a dude with an AR that was getting rushed by rioters, almost like a zombie movie.  They had him on the ground and one rioter went to jump kick him.  Looks like he was a bit panicky with the shots he got off, but I guess his own life was on the line at that point.  Looked like he had been trying to get away from them.

Ugly situation

If he was trying to get away from them why did he show up with a rifle?

Because they were chasing him and trying to get his rifle?

They chased him from his house to the protests to get his rifle?