The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[Sheilbh]

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1266952661791674370?s=20

I clearly heard the officers ordering everybody to get inside.  Why didn't the filmer comply?

Because they're on their own property.

Saw this image, which is kind of extraordinary and reminds me of Beirut:

[Monoriu]

Because they're on their own property.

Saw this image, which is kind of extraordinary and reminds me of Beirut:

That's not a very good reason to flagrantly disobey a clear police order.  If police orders you to get inside, you get inside immediately.  The only acceptable explanation I can think of is you are deaf and can't hear the police.

Dunno, this happens in HK all the time, so I don't know what's so special about the picture. 

[Admiral Yi]

People should obey curfews by staying indoors.
The police should not enforce the curfew by firing paint cannisters at people on their porches.
If you're driving and detained by the police and you lock your doors and refuse to exit, you should expect to have your windows smashed and to be pulled out of the car.
Slashing the tires of cars I don't understand, especially of parked cars.
Looting is bad.
Shooting grocery shoppers in the face with rubber bullets is bad.

[Monoriu]

People should obey curfews by staying indoors.
The police should not enforce the curfew by firing paint cannisters at people on their porches.
If you're driving and detained by the police and you lock your doors and refuse to exit, you should expect to have your windows smashed and to be pulled out of the car.
Slashing the tires of cars I don't understand, especially of parked cars.
Looting is bad.
Shooting grocery shoppers in the face with rubber bullets is bad.

[Eddie Teach]

It looks like some people here can't tell the difference between peaceful protests and riots.

Seems the problem is the cops are having trouble switching modes or reading the situation, so all protesters and even some onlookers get lumped in as "Rioters".

[PDH]

It looks like some people here can't tell the difference between peaceful protests and riots.

Seems the problem is the cops are having trouble switching modes or reading the situation, so all protesters and even some onlookers get lumped in as "Rioters".

And of course the problem the police have telling rioters from film crews, nurses helping wounded, old men with canes...

[Ancient Demon]

It looks like some people here can't tell the difference between peaceful protests and riots.

Seems the problem is the cops are having trouble switching modes or reading the situation, so all protesters and even some onlookers get lumped in as "Rioters".

In some cases, sure. I hoped we could all agree however that riots and looting are unacceptable, but sadly that doesn't seem to be the case.

[11B4V]

About 200 folks marching around downtown Shelton. No shenanigans, however an equal number of the local citizenry protecting shops/businesses. Yes Languish, all shops and businesses. We have a large Hispanic and Korean demographic.

[Razgovory]

Perhaps we should prevent cops from wearing face coverings.  It would be nice to hold some of the these people responsible.

[11B4V]

Perhaps we should prevent cops from wearing face coverings.  It would be nice to hold some of the these people responsible.

Violation of local guidelines.

[Sheilbh]

In some cases, sure. I hoped we could all agree however that riots and looting are unacceptable, but sadly that doesn't seem to be the case.

Sure. But that's not what I've seen today. As Eddie says the number of media they've shot at, the residents on their porches they're shooting at, the old men on canes they're shoving.

It sort of feels as if the police have stopped being fellow civilians and citizens in many of these areas. And there's none of the basic level of discipline you'd expect as much as anything else. It looks like an undisciplined force lashing out in fear of losing control which is causing them to lose more control.

[PDH]

Knocking over the old man, in broad daylight...that should symbolize all the excess right now going on from the police.

[Tamas]

Perhaps we should prevent cops from wearing face coverings.  It would be nice to hold some of the these people responsible.

Violation of local guidelines.

In Hungary all police officers must wear a clear identifier. With riot police that's their ID number painted on their helmets, IIRC. This has been done since the unfortunate incidents during the 2006 riots. And since those riots are a big part of the current far-right foundation myth, the Orban regime dares not touch this rule, at least not yet.

[11B4V]

Perhaps we should prevent cops from wearing face coverings.  It would be nice to hold some of the these people responsible.

Violation of local guidelines.

In Hungary all police officers must wear a clear identifier. With riot police that's their ID number painted on their helmets, IIRC. This has been done since the unfortunate incidents during the 2006 riots. And since those riots are a big part of the current far-right foundation myth, the Orban regime dares not touch this rule, at least not yet.

Not a bad idea.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Perhaps we should prevent cops from wearing face coverings.  It would be nice to hold some of the these people responsible.

That's the crux of the problem. Police are not being held accountable except in the most egregious cases (and often not even then).