The Shooting Gallery: Police Violence MEGATHREAD

[Caliga]

Wonder why the dude was running from the po-po?

[citizen k]

Vineland Police Allow Dog to Maul Black Man Phillip White to Death - New Jersey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lonwenKVEv0

[citizen k]

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2015/04/07/anonymous-threatens-vineland-police-over-phillip-whites-death/

One week after 32-year-old Vineland man Phillip White died in police custody, a YouTube page associated with the hacker group Anonymous has threatened to expose the officers involved with the arrest and also to reveal other details about the incident.

"On March 31st, 2015, Vineland City, New Jersey, police arrested Phillip White," says the masked person in the video. "And while handcuffed, White was brutally beaten by members of the Vineland City Police Department ... Officers kicked, punched and stomped on Phillip White until he was unconscious ... A canine officer released a dog and allowed the dog to bite Phillip in his face, head and body. This is absolute grotesque behavior ..."

The group is threatening to release the names and personal information of members of the Vineland Police Department and the Cumberland County Prosecutor's Office on an hourly basis until its demands are met. The group wants the authorities to release the names of the three police officers involved in White's arrest as well as any dashboard camera footage.

Police had been dispatched to the 100 block of Grape Street in Vineland on March 31st to respond to a call about a disorderly person. There, they encountered White, and things turned violent and ended with White dying a short time later.

Witnesses told NBC 10 that they saw police punching White and a dog biting him, and NBC 10 also obtained partial video of the incident. Attorneys for the police say that White was acting erratically and that he grabbed for one of their guns.

The demand video was published on YouTube on Monday by user AnonDad NOWsec, a relative newcomer to the Anonymous fold.

[Grey Fox]

The one thing that amazes me about most of these cop shootings is how brazen the lying by cops is.  It makes you wonder how often the justice gets completely perverted, because there is no camera around, so the cops and their partners can come up with fantastical stories that no one is around to dispute.

All the time. Cops are assholes.

[Liep]

The one thing that amazes me about most of these cop shootings is how brazen the lying by cops is.  It makes you wonder how often the justice gets completely perverted, because there is no camera around, so the cops and their partners can come up with fantastical stories that no one is around to dispute.

All the time. Cops are assholes.

I wonder if American cops are much different than Danish/European cops. I've met a fair few through work and they've all been very nice (one was a bit incompetent though, but he was new).

[Caliga]

All the time. Cops are assholes.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[grumbler]

The one thing that amazes me about most of these cop shootings is how brazen the lying by cops is.  It makes you wonder how often the justice gets completely perverted, because there is no camera around, so the cops and their partners can come up with fantastical stories that no one is around to dispute.

All the time. Cops are assholes.

Well, your cops are Quebecois, so, yeah, assholes.

Not all cops everywhere are Grallon, though.

[Warspite]

American cops seem to work in a much more hostile environment. Whatever the state of race relations between the Metropolitan Police here in London and the city's different communities, the police are not getting shot at. Whereas I appreciate this is rather more a risk in the US context.

[dps]

American cops seem to work in a much more hostile environment. Whatever the state of race relations between the Metropolitan Police here in London and the city's different communities, the police are not getting shot at. Whereas I appreciate this is rather more a risk in the US context.

That's probably too broad a generalization.  It's certainly true in some places, but in others, being a cop is probably not statistically much more dangerous than being a file clerk.

Also, this is another issue where the relative decentralization and sheer scale of the US compared to European countries comes into play.  I don't know the exact count, but I'd guess that the US has something on the order of 50,000 police departments, plus a large number of other agencies whose officers aren't considered police per se, but who have some type of law-enforcement mission (game wardens, border guards, etc).  Some of those are 1 or 2 person departments, but some are quite large.  You get that many organizations employing that many personnel, you're going to get some assholes, regardless of the type of work.

[grumbler]

You get that many organizations employing that many personnel, you're going to get some assholes, regardless of the type of work.

True.  I have run into a bigger percentage of assholes from the phone company than from the police department.

[Martinus]

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2015/04/07/anonymous-threatens-vineland-police-over-phillip-whites-death/

One week after 32-year-old Vineland man Phillip White died in police custody, a YouTube page associated with the hacker group Anonymous has threatened to expose the officers involved with the arrest and also to reveal other details about the incident.

"On March 31st, 2015, Vineland City, New Jersey, police arrested Phillip White," says the masked person in the video. "And while handcuffed, White was brutally beaten by members of the Vineland City Police Department ... Officers kicked, punched and stomped on Phillip White until he was unconscious ... A canine officer released a dog and allowed the dog to bite Phillip in his face, head and body. This is absolute grotesque behavior ..."

The group is threatening to release the names and personal information of members of the Vineland Police Department and the Cumberland County Prosecutor's Office on an hourly basis until its demands are met. The group wants the authorities to release the names of the three police officers involved in White's arrest as well as any dashboard camera footage.

Police had been dispatched to the 100 block of Grape Street in Vineland on March 31st to respond to a call about a disorderly person. There, they encountered White, and things turned violent and ended with White dying a short time later.

Witnesses told NBC 10 that they saw police punching White and a dog biting him, and NBC 10 also obtained partial video of the incident. Attorneys for the police say that White was acting erratically and that he grabbed for one of their guns.

The demand video was published on YouTube on Monday by user AnonDad NOWsec, a relative newcomer to the Anonymous fold.

At least for once the victim was White.

[Martinus]

You get that many organizations employing that many personnel, you're going to get some assholes, regardless of the type of work.

True.  I have run into a bigger percentage of assholes from the phone company than from the police department.

The only difference is that phone company assholes rarely are in a position of life and death over people - so the standard can be more lax.

You are like those people who excuse the Catholic church's pedophilia scandals by saying that the percentage of pedophiles among priests working with children is not higher than among any other profession - but that is not very helpful. In certain professions you should screen out certain personality types more vigorously, whether it is insane suicidal pilots, pedophile priests and teachers or murderous asshole cops.

[Martinus]

Wonder why the dude was running from the po-po?

Seems he had unpaid alimonies, which is a jail-time offense in that state.

[Admiral Yi]

Seems he had unpaid alimonies, which is a jail-time offense in that state.

FYI, alimony is a little different than child support, and you don't pluralize it.

[derspiess]

Seems he had unpaid alimonies, which is a jail-time offense in that state.

FYI, alimony is a little different than child support, and you don't pluralize it.

Boom.