Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[Jacob]

How does it not provide relevent information. You answer if you think your own country should defend the ally or not. Then afterward you get asked if you think the US would.

So for instance in 2017 conclusion was: Europeans generally expect the U.S. to use military force to defend a NATO ally from a Russian attack, but they are less supportive of using their own armed forces under the same circumstances.

Doesn't really seem anything misleading in that.

Okie dokie

Also the survey has been running for years with that same question set, so are you suggesting people were confused every year?

Yes.

I am suggesting that if indeed the questions were poorly chosen then using the same poorly chosen questions every year - presumably with a random sample of people - then those poorly chosen questions would introduce the same set of uncertainty into the results on an ongoing basis.

[garbon]

I'm not sure why we would assume Pew never assess its question set.

[Razgovory]

I was surprised that the US, UK and Canada scored so high in defending their NATO allies. Also the Dutch.

[Jacob]

I'm not sure why we would assume Pew never assess its question set.

I'm not sure what you're hoping to get out of this conversation.

[garbon]

I'm not sure why we would assume Pew never assess its question set.

I'm not sure what you're hoping to get out of this conversation.

About as much as you I would reckon.

[Jacob]

About as much as you I would reckon.

Well you have a nice day, then

[Josquius]

So many explanations there.

In large part I reckon there's a sense of "what could we do?", thinking it'd be their country against Russia alone whilst the US of course could handle Russia.

Then there's the less forgivable and more selfish let Americans do the dying.

And I guess to an extent there's also a lot who would see it as an American created problem.

I wonder if these are the same people they asked and other methodology qs.

[garbon]

About as much as you I would reckon.

Well you have a nice day, then

How rude!

[Razgovory]

So many explanations there.

In large part I reckon there's a sense of "what could we do?", thinking it'd be their country against Russia alone whilst the US of course could handle Russia.

Then there's the less forgivable and more selfish let Americans do the dying.

And I guess to an extent there's also a lot who would see it as an American created problem.

I wonder if these are the same people they asked and other methodology qs.

There is one very large and obvious explanation:  They don't care if Russia eats up it's neighbors.

[Razgovory]

Of course the original poll had more than two questions.  If you want to look for yourself


https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/02/09/nato-seen-favorably-across-member-states/

[Josquius]

So many explanations there.

In large part I reckon there's a sense of "what could we do?", thinking it'd be their country against Russia alone whilst the US of course could handle Russia.

Then there's the less forgivable and more selfish let Americans do the dying.

And I guess to an extent there's also a lot who would see it as an American created problem.

I wonder if these are the same people they asked and other methodology qs.

There is one very large and obvious explanation:  They don't care if Russia eats up it's neighbors.

This would line up with no/no. Not somebody should stop them but not us.

[Sheilbh]

This would line up with no/no. Not somebody should stop them but not us.

But would doesn't mean should.

It's entirely coherent to say we should do nothing and of course those warmongering Americans will intervene (I think that would be the standard "anti-imperialist" take).

[Josquius]

Ah misread. Very misleading charts there to have shoukd we vs would America.

[grumbler]

"Would the US do it" certainly informs "should we do it," whereas "should the US do it" doesn't inform "should we do it."  "Would we do it" also doesn't inform "should we do it," nor does "should the US do it" inform "would the US do it."

[Sheilbh]

So that validates Jake's point.